LiveMotion could bury Flash if....

What I find that lacks in both FLASH and LiveMotion and something that I know is contingent on the dream of broadband is the ability to play movies within movies and actually non-vector movies in general! Would love to see a movie (non-vector) moving along a path while actually playing and another full screen movie behind it. I'm not talking about some choppy grainy crap that we call movies for the web,..but rather a nice clear movie. In reality though,..if a program is ever going to get here,..I believe livemotion will get there first. Adobe Premiere would then fully integrate with it and that would be killer. this would seriously hurt FLASH. Just a thought.


Todd Philip Dolce

In a way, you already can. You can already include Quicktime within Flash, and with products like VideoFrame (Citrix), MP4, amongst other things out there, the combo of Video and Flash (or SVG) is upcoming...

As far as Premiere, consider me barely literate in it - ironic, I use AfterEffects for most of my video, if not Director and/or *paint/*effect. Either way, it is 'almost' possible now...

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Originally posted by DryIce
What I find that lacks in both FLASH and LiveMotion and something that I know is contingent on the dream of broadband is the ability to play movies within movies and actually non-vector movies in general! Would love to see a movie (non-vector) moving along a path while actually playing and another full screen movie behind it. I'm not talking about some choppy grainy crap that we call movies for the web,..but rather a nice clear movie. In reality though,..if a program is ever going to get here,..I believe livemotion will get there first. Adobe Premiere would then fully integrate with it and that would be killer. this would seriously hurt FLASH. Just a thought.


Todd Philip Dolce

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Very True,....however,..I've seen Quicktime quality and it's pretty bad at best. Also,..I don't want my movie that's moving inside a movie to have the gray outline around it or be contingent on a play button being pressed. I want it to start up automatically and continue playing until I have scripted it to stop. I cannot speak on (Citrix)
because I have not seen it nor heard anything about it. It may be a great compression program.

TPD

Go to the QuickTime site and check out some their demos.

I'm quite impressed with the quality of their movie preview clips---the sound and quality are far above RealPlayer (G2, 8, whatever...). Even RealPlayer broadband does not compare. QuickTime seems to stream slower, but I like being able to scroll the play button, too.

Using QTV with FLASH can give you that "real" movie in the bg and sharp graphic animation for controls, titles, etc. But these files are still a bit large for "instant" web delivery. The tools are here, but the infrastructure just isn't up to it. We will have to wait. Still, go to Atomfilms.com and watch some movies in the mean time....

I guess you all have forgotten that the Flash Player (which really isnt being improved alot) is the weak link in all of this. The ability to animate and playback a compressed movie inside a flash movie is interesting, but it will be a long time before the flash / shockwave player will be able to utilize hardware acceleration from the clients video card (remember that flash plays back in software, hence it's universal platform capability)and it is a nightmare to try to guess what each users video card on which platform PC / MAC / unix / linux arrrghh!!! Lets just stick to the simple stuff.

Actually, the Shockwave Player can pass various types of video content through, and can also use system-specific hardware acceleration. That's part of the reason it's larger.

The Macromedia Flash Player is aiming at more than just Mac/Win computers. The emerging area is portable low-RAM wireless devices. This Player will be kept small, system-agnostic, and easily portable to take advantage of these new opportunities.

jd

"...contingent on the dream of broadband..."
And I'm waiting for a personal flying automobile. It's just a matter of time, too. In the mean time, we use what we got and we BE the change we dream of. Posterity nostalgia is regressive at best.