no problems people, I'll post a zip tomorrow night and include an example on my site so that you can view how I use it.
Don't be expecting much people, its really really simple php.
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no problems people, I'll post a zip tomorrow night and include an example on my site so that you can view how I use it.
Don't be expecting much people, its really really simple php.
Yes, really simple PHP is what we'll need.
humm,
guys didnīt macromedia just come out with contribute.
humm,
so i guess i have miss understood cms.
humm,
CONTRIBUITE.
yeah - and dcullipher mentioned that too.Quote:
Originally posted by OddDog
CONTRIBUTE.
Just because MM launched a product doesn't meant that everyone wants to use it though :D
And Contribute isn't a 'real' CMS - it allows you to change the content of static pages, rather than changing back-end data that is then used to create dynamic content (which is how I would describe the role of a CMS). Definitely beats giving your customers a copy of Frontpage to update their pages of course, no question about it.
Also, as far as I know, you can't use Contribute to change Flash content, which I guess is what this was all about in the first place.
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opps stand corrected !!!
:)
To find out if there was a CMS anywhere that could change Flash content was the reason I started this, but that's too narrow for a thread, I just asked generally about CMSs in the first post.
Flash can load text from txt/HTML files, so if a CMS can alter these files easily via the Web, that'd be great. A CMS that's easy enough for clients to use would be ideal.
Most CMSs are too complex, in that they offer too many options. But of course they do - if a company is going to make a CMS and market it, it's got to be sophisticated enough to have lots of uses and suit lots of people.
But all I'll need is a dead simple CMS that does dead simple things. Maybe my dead simple clients will be able to use it.
And, it's one thing to have a CMS that's simpler to use than FrontPage, it's another thing to persuade clients this is the case. To a client, FrontPage works like Word, which they can use already.
I am working on exactly this at the moment phantom.
You can easily write and read files/content with PHP/ASP/ColdFusion. I have already built a CMS for ASP using the Ektron solution for the editor and was going to have to use Ektron for the Flash content editor as well. This is due to flash needing HTML markup formatted with quotes around ALL attributes, and the Ektron solution was the only one that could do this.
However in the DRK2 there is a rich text editor component that will work great so I am implementing this into a text file editing system that will allow editing of textual content in flash movies.
I will be creating one for PHP and one for ASP and will let you know the progress of it.
sorry OddDog, didn't mean to come across quite so heavy in my post there, was in 'serious' mode through work...
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just to throw another idea into the discussion. what we use here in the office is an automatic 'mini admin system' for dealing with Flash text files.
Basically, it's a generic php script that reads any text file formatted for Flash, generates the HTML form needed to handle those variables and then overwrites the textfile once the form is submitted.
Non-technical but web-savvy people use it all the time to administer pretty complex e-commerce sites and it's a minimal amount of work on our side.
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okay people.
after reading this thread, I have nearly completed my little crappy php thing but would anyone be interested in taking it further and turning it into a boardroom project? Basically, using all our skills, we come up with a definitive CMS system that will be available freely to all participants.
What do you all think ? Even if you don't know PHP / whatever, you can still come up with ideas and content or contribute your design abilities.
I don't sound like one of those kids who want to start a group do I
So anyone interested?
great idea Bruce... I'm just getting into the backend stuff, and I was kinda wondering if we could break it all down as we go sort of make a wee tutorial out of it as well. Just a thought. If you need hosting or search engine promotion for anything to do with the project, I'd be more than happy to through in for that, but sadly I'm not up to snuff with the php/mysql skills.
Looking forward to it.
hey Bruce, we should start a thread for it, I have a few questions comments to add, but it might be beneficial to condense them in a brainstorming thread, ehh?
My PHP is not all that good either, I'm a relative newcomer. I am going to start a tutorial thread about this then and go through it step by step. Everyone can contribute ideas etc as we go along. Hopefully, by the end, we'll have a CMS utility we can all let our clients use. Its also a good learning experience.Quote:
Originally posted by serpent star
great idea Bruce... I'm just getting into the backend stuff, and I was kinda wondering if we could break it all down as we go sort of make a wee tutorial out of it as well. Just a thought. If you need hosting or search engine promotion for anything to do with the project, I'd be more than happy to through in for that, but sadly I'm not up to snuff with the php/mysql skills.
Looking forward to it.
yep, I'll start a new thread later today
cool...
definitely bruce. count me in. i'd say i'm intermediate level with php. i can code a survey, mail form, and guestbook, but i'm no php shark.
i think the coolest feature of this thing would be to have it do ftp so you could run it from your server and have the client's server ask it to update the client's files (and save a copy on your server too for backup).
funny, I was thinking something along the same lines :) I'd be happy to be involved, have a great deal of theoretical knowledge and ideas but probably won't have too much time doing any actual coding.
I have done some php, know about databases and similar + actually wrote a quite specific CMS in Perl about, erm, 6 years ago (am I really that old!? :eek:
)
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excellent.
Okay, thats enough to make this go ahead. I'll start another thread later but I would suggest we start with my little php scripts, I'll zip them and upload them so that everyone has a copy.
Then we can go from there.
OK, great. Those little files may be all we need.
Just looked at Contribute - it has to be installed on clients PCs at $100 a time so what use is that? Plus it looks no simpler to use than FrontPage.
Only a free, simple on-Web CMS will actually get used by clients in real life.
We're all having a go at clients too much on this board, but I wouldn't go this far: http://www.templatekit.com/whack.php
you could still charge the client for supplying the CMS, since installing/running it and building the Flash to make use of external data still requires skilled work ;)Quote:
Originally posted by phantomflanflinger
OK, great. Those little files may be all we need.
Just looked at Contribute - it has to be installed on clients PCs at $100 a time so what use is that? Plus it looks no simpler to use than FrontPage.
Only a free, simple on-Web CMS will actually get used by clients in real life.
We're all having a go at clients too much on this board, but I wouldn't go this far: http://www.templatekit.com/whack.php
(and the 'whack the client' came from FK in the first place! but I agree with your sentiment)
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you could still charge the client for supplying the CMS, since installing/running it and building the Flash to make use of external data still requires skilled work
I will. If we work, we charge. No work = no charge.
Re. a CMS for Flash, let's not forget that MX can load jpegs and sounds remotely, so if the swf file is made with CMS in mind, that would help. Also, ******* SWF Decompiler can swap bitmaps insdide a .swf file. Don't know how, but it proves you can get into swfs to some extent.