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An answer both to gSOLO_01 and yasunobu13 at once... :)
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No, I didn't read the entire thread, but if you're saying I don't need to "know / learn / use / touch JavaScript"... it's a little bit of a relieve... But there're still all the other things I've mentioned and more...
And as FPChris here said:
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Ok, rant over... heading back to MX now.
I haven't actually seen the need fo the $'s
Did you see the code that I posted? No $'s anywhere. It's just a convention used to mark variables as far as I can see. In php it's necessary, but I don't think that it's needed in AS2.0
As for case sensitivity, it's not very difficult to deal with. There's a lot more difficult things that come up in flash than making sure you say 'MovieClip' instead of 'movieclip'
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You can use JavaScript (JSFL) to script the IDE. But from what I'm seeing, right now it seems to be a bit flaky. But employers are bound to put every item on the Macromedia feature list on their employment requests. And Devnet is almost already entirely dedicated to FMX2004.
Lovely comment :DQuote:
Originally posted by CNO
You should only respect the uttery valid opinion of respected and notable names in the Flash community, like onRelease and Hollowcube (both of which I'm sure are their given birth names).
Why would I want to spend 1000$ on extensions? If all those things would be included in the Flash itself, 2004 would look much better.Quote:
Originally posted by gSOLO_01 4. There are a lot of third party extensions out (and coming out), check them out.
it's be much more bloated, expensive, slow...Quote:
Originally posted by tonypa
Why would I want to spend 1000$ on extensions? If all those things would be included in the Flash itself, 2004 would look much better.
Ok, why would I then want to pay 1000$ to make my Flash bloated and slow? :)Quote:
Originally posted by gSOLO_01
it's be much more bloated, expensive, slow...
because you want to do 3d, photoshop filters, text effects &c. in Flash rather than using an external source...Quote:
Originally posted by tonypa
Ok, why would I then want to pay 1000$ to make my Flash bloated and slow? :)
You make it sound like all those extensions are free. You understand that they are not, dont you?
I tried to let him know how people are feeling in the comments on that article but he only seemed to think that my first name was obviously not aversion (a name i've used in this and other communities online for years now) and how could he pay attention to my views when he doesn't know who I am and what my reputation is in the community (as you say... sigh) and that he doesn't like flash footers and doesn't want to waste his time by looking at flashkit.Quote:
Originally posted by CNO
You read JD's blog. Those are just a bunch of annonymous nobodies whose opinions don't count!
You should only respect the uttery valid opinion of respected and notable names in the Flash community, like onRelease and Hollowcube (both of which I'm sure are their given birth names).
;)
But thank God JD is an independent voice and not a corporate shill (instead he gets bloggers to shill for him and just links to them)
so there you have it, that's how one part of MM feels about this community.Quote:
I felt like a sucker investing my time there.
all I wanted to do is make it clear to someone from the company how people feel about MM's community involvement, to express that all they would have to do is get someone to check it over and post once in a while, every month or so, not every day, just soemthing to acknowledge that MM's listening and appreciate or investment in their prduct. But the only response I got was - why should I listen to you when I don't know who you are and I don't like the flash footers.
sigh.
:rolleyes:
Put them in Flash, Flash costs more for everybody (i.e. data components add to the pro price). Put them outside of Flash and it costs for only those who need those extra components.
Also, will these extension run as poorly as the new timeline effects?
If so, I don't see a market there.
Chris
Stright from the horse's mouth. If you're interested in this community, fell free to share your opinions with JD over at his blog.Quote:
Originally posted by aversion
so there you have it, that's how one part of MM feels about this community.
http://www.markme.com/jd/
or here: jdowdell@macromedia.com
From his Macromedia bio (try not to laugh too hard):
Keep in mind also that Forest Key (Senior Product Manager for Flash) did not give any details about the new version of Flash at the recent Flashkit conference, despite it being revealed to the world that same weekend.Quote:
John Dowdell joined Macromedia in 1993 and listens to people in the online communities.
Macromedia seems only interested in supporting those communities that it holds direct control over (see JD's threats to close and delete comments he disagrees with, like a kid taking his ball and running from the playground), or make veiled threats to others (See Actionscript.com).
I wouldn't even care about the aspersions he cast on my 'unreliable' position in the community if he had actually listened to what I had to say. I really don't think I asked for that much..Quote:
Originally posted by CNO
Macromedia seems only interested in supporting those communities that it holds direct control over (see JD's threats to close and delete comments he disagrees with, like a kid taking his ball and running from the playground), or make veiled threats to others (See Actionscript.com).
sigh
Actually it gives this error message:Quote:
Originally posted by CNO
If you're interested in this community, fell free to share your opinions with JD over at his blog.
http://www.markme.com/jd/
"Your comment submission failed for the following reasons:
Comments are not allowed on this entry."
lol, well I guess that's the end of that discussion on MM's attitude towards insignificant communities with over 400,000 members like ours...Quote:
Originally posted by tonypa
Actually it gives this error message:
"Your comment submission failed for the following reasons:
Comments are not allowed on this entry."
Im sure it has something to do with Johns other problem :)Quote:
Originally posted by aversion
lol, well I guess that's the end of that discussion on MM's attitude towards insignificant communities with over 400,000 members like ours...
"Do you know a good way to set Movable Type to remove the comment field on all archives after seven days? I'm getting serial numbers and penis ads in old posts, so I need to solicit input on only recent items."
I've just posted his Macromedia e-mail, although that might be blocked as well.Quote:
Originally posted by tonypa
Actually it gives this error message:
"Your comment submission failed for the following reasons:
Comments are not allowed on this entry."
I, for one, would love to participate in a petition sent to someone slightly higher-up the Macromedia food chain to get them to recognize these communities, or at least not take an active role in talking them down on a blog sporting the Macromedia logo.
I think if we even were to get a portion of the 400,000 members names (real names now, aliases don't count) stating that they will not upgrade their software to this new version for many of the reasons listed above, cc'd to people like Rob Burgess and some Internet news sources, perhaps JD wouldn't feel like he was wasting his time visiting our little corner of the Internet, ne?
I'd be all for it, I wonder if the might of internet.com would dare get involved, the can't be happy with the way MM is treating this community but they might not want to rock the boat :)Quote:
Originally posted by CNO
I think if we even were to get a portion of the 400,000 members names (real names now, aliases don't count) stating that they will not upgrade their software to this new version for many of the reasons listed above, cc'd to people like Rob Burgess and some Internet news sources, perhaps JD wouldn't feel like he was wasting his time visiting our little corner of the Internet, ne?
still they own some nice news outlets :D
I am getting the feeling that people on this forum are largely animators and therefore are less than excited about all the new features that give programmers such as myself a lot more power and ease of use... i'm just wondering if any of you know of a useful forum for programmer/developer types who want to discuss and learn about the new features of MX 2004 and get up to speed w/o all the griping about lack of normal mode and product activation? Do any of you know of such a place? Thanks!