This forum is called 'cool sites', not 'functional sites' or 'WC3 Compliant sites'Quote:
Originally posted by flipsideguy
flow of content, well written and appropriate copy, continuity, usability, and accessibility
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This forum is called 'cool sites', not 'functional sites' or 'WC3 Compliant sites'Quote:
Originally posted by flipsideguy
flow of content, well written and appropriate copy, continuity, usability, and accessibility
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Olli_Budworth
This forum is called 'cool sites', not 'functional sites' or 'WC3 Compliant sites'
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Now i get it why lot of people on Flashkit start bittchin on the 2A crew. EVERY site produced by 2A is posted in "coolsites", also the sites which are very usable, accessible and look good etc. but hey ..there is no after effects and heavy 3d used in here .. and see
what kinda reactions 2a gets ...
"is realy a 2A?? i dont think there r something unique or special"
"Hmmm I would like to see some more advancement"
"2 advanced is getting kinda weak in my opinion ... but thats just me ... i think they should start taking less projects, and place more time on single sites"
I guess if there would exist a forum called "usable-fastloading-goodlooking sites" this ipexpert.com - by 2advanced Studios would get the best comments ever.
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I've never seen someone make a statement then argue with themselves quite as proficciently as you just have.Quote:
Originally posted by revenanted
Now i get it why lot of people on Flashkit start bittchin on the 2A crew. EVERY site produced by 2A is posted in "coolsites", also the sites which are very usable, accessible and look good etc. but hey ..there is no after effects and heavy 3d used in here .. and see
what kinda reactions 2a gets ...
"is realy a 2A?? i dont think there r something unique or special"
"Hmmm I would like to see some more advancement"
"2 advanced is getting kinda weak in my opinion ... but thats just me ... i think they should start taking less projects, and place more time on single sites"
I guess if there would exist a forum called "usable-fastloading-goodlooking sites" this ipexpert.com - by 2advanced Studios would get the best comments ever.
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This forum is for showing the best, from the best. Personally for a piece of 2A work this isn't up to standard, it looks like a piece of their very early work, not a touch on say the one for Taig Khris, but then this site may not have had the same money or time injected into it.
It also really pisses me off when people go "I think 2A should be doing this blah blah blah" - somehow think that:
a) they know what they're doing
b) the are making a LOT of money
c) they are regarded as one of if not the best web design studio out there.
This site is ok, but we've had sites like the new billy bussey site, FI, 2A V4 etc.......... it doesn't really match up.
Then we shouldnt post every sites of 2A in "coolsites" and calling this a weak project is wrong to say .. it fits the target audience and probably the client needs.Quote:
Originally posted by Olli_Budworth
I've never seen someone make a statement then argue with themselves quite as proficciently as you just have.
This site is ok, but we've had sites like the new billy bussey site, FI, 2A V4 etc.......... it doesn't really match up.
I dont think you should compare this project with Taig khris its such a different client, ofcourse a skater wants a site as flashy as possible, dont think its a money thing that much, if i was a network company the last thing i wanted is heavy grafiks, long loading times, too much flashy stuff which keep you away from the content.
I think this site is very goodlooking and thank god not too flash etc. ofcourse there are a few things which i personally feel it should be better .. maybe i exaggerated by saying "this ipexpert.com -by 2advanced Studios would get the best comments ever" but that was just because i wanted to make a point.
it's up to each person how they define a cool site but for me aesthetics and 'flash' is only a part of it, functionality is part of a cool site for me because it's one aspect of good design.Quote:
Originally posted by Olli_Budworth
This forum is called 'cool sites', not 'functional sites' or 'WC3 Compliant sites'
To me, if a site is not usable then it's not cool no matter how fancy the graphics, if it's not laid out well, then it's not cool, if it's beautiful simple to use but looks completely inappropriate for the purpose it's not cool...
A cool site has to be 'cool' in all the areas that make up a well-designed site, it's not well-designed in my mind if it only looks cool.
but at the same time it's not worth getting anal about validation and standards, if a site works, as a whole design, then I don't particularly care if it validates or not, but I'd like to see the designer making an effort to at least follow the recommendations where possible.
hey revenanted don't you work with Budget Nudist?
I agree with this, the disconnect between certain members seems to be that some people are judging sites based on design principles (all the design principles) and others aren't.Quote:
Originally posted by flipsideguy
A good web site is so much more that just a "cool" experience. It is so much more that just pretty pictures on the screen. Sorry to bring this up so bluntly but most of the stuff out there don't at all take in consideration the intended target audience, flow of content, well written and appropriate copy, continuity, usability, and accessibility.
like I said above, I think however anyone wants to define a cool site is fine with me, but good design encompasses much more than just aesthetics.
this site is solid work, it may not be as groundbreaking as the F150 site, but it's a site that works better than 90% of sites out there. Is it a cool site? Not in my opinion but it's far from a bad site.
I visit Cool Sites to check sites that STANDS OUT from the crowd , ipexpert.com is faaar from that ... it looks very normal like 2 billion other websites ... not interresting a bit.
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Originally posted by Johnny Shiro
I visit Cool Sites to check sites that STANDS OUT from the crowd , ipexpert.com is faaar from that ... it looks very normal like 2 billion other websites ... not interresting a bit.
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OT as hell, but:
This is something every young/new designer should see and understand.Quote:
well written and appropriate copy
The written word is so damn powerful, and needs to be done right. If you're not GREAT with the language (i.e.: english major, professional communications expert, etc.), then you should spend a couple of bucks to hire one of these people to go over any professional sites you do. How many flash sites do you see in Site Check, Member's, and even Cool Sites where you just know the reader won't finish that first paragraph? Go ahead and tween your face off, words are central to communicating the message.
MAN THIS SITE IS A 2A RIP!
Well ... can't say im not a happy camper this morning.
Just wondering, but what's so "groundbreaking" about the F-150 site...? The FX of the dude appearing in and out is typical compared to special FX that can be done in movies. Yeah, this is a Flash site, but seriously, they weren't using Flash to create those FX, so yes, you gotta compare it to what's possible out there. After all, it's just importing jpgs or putting it in Quicktimt @_@; Really, I don't see anything "groundbreaking" about it. Well done, yes. Executed well, yes. Great site, yes. But "groundbreaking"...? okay.
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Originally posted by Grifter730
Just wondering, but what's so "groundbreaking" about the F-150 site...? The FX of the dude appearing in and out is typical compared to special FX that can be done in movies. Yeah, this is a Flash site, but seriously, they weren't using Flash to create those FX, so yes, you gotta compare it to what's possible out there. After all, it's just importing jpgs or putting it in Quicktimt @_@; Really, I don't see anything "groundbreaking" about it. Well done, yes. Executed well, yes. Great site, yes. But "groundbreaking"...? okay.
maybe 'groundbreaking' is a bit of an exaggeration, but it certainly raises the bar imho, yes those elements of the site are not new, there's no miraculous new media formats being used, but I haven't seen another site that puts video, 3d and flash together so seamlessly and effectively.
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Ah, now that I can't disagree with. :)Quote:
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maybe 'groundbreaking' is a bit of an exaggeration, but it certainly raises the bar imho, yes those elements of the site are not new, there's no miraculous new media formats being used, but I haven't seen another site that puts video, 3d and flash together so seamlessly and effectively.
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The F-150 site is pointing toward what the web will be: an entire world of tv commercials. We've gone from static html pages to this. Still, what is normal on TV is extremely high-end on the web, and not that many people can pump it out yet.
So Grifter, I think that what should be recognized with that site is the coming of age of web media. The web is almost good now.
Boy oh boy, Jordan must get hard just watching us write our asses off every time he creates something new. If he put up the letter "t" in bold font on a grey background it would give birth to a six page thread. Silly & interesting isn't it?
Popularity can work both ways...it can make a man great and it can also break a man to pieces in matter of seconds ;)
The web becoming an entire world of TV commercials is not exactly what I'd like my future to be like. Bad enought that we get popup ads and junk mail, and TV commercials. A future where the internet is one streaming ad after another will make me cry, even if they all look like the F150 site. Too much of something is never good.Quote:
Originally posted by SSC Cosmic
The F-150 site is pointing toward what the web will be: an entire world of tv commercials. We've gone from static html pages to this. Still, what is normal on TV is extremely high-end on the web, and not that many people can pump it out yet.
So Grifter, I think that what should be recognized with that site is the coming of age of web media. The web is almost good now.
How is it that posts about 2a sites always go for more than 1 page yet all the other sites don't..
I think people should stop looking for faults in 2a's sites.
Just because they're a big company doesn't mean you can give them s**t b/c their site isn't the greatest EVER. And other people need to stop kissing ass by protecting them so much by arguing and flaming people with bad critique.
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Have an oppinion and live with it.