I just updated my homepage http://www.ultimation.tk , please post your suggestions and comments.
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I just updated my homepage http://www.ultimation.tk , please post your suggestions and comments.
Not sure why you used flash for this page? Would look just as good as tables or even built in frames if you wanted the links to open in the center window.
I like the background design.
Thanks for praising the background design. About using flash, as I have said in About Ultimation section, I have an ideology about flash with which every web designer would love to disagree. I used Photoshop's built in HTML export with slices and it looked cool. But not until I used an older version of Mozilla or Konquerer in Linux. Also if image support is turned off, visitor will see only text. This creates idealogy of "showing something to every visitor", this idealogy is good for commercial websites but as Ultimation is only a personal portfolio, I have an idealogy of "showing everything to some visitors". I hope you understand that.
I just about fell out of my chair laughing there sorry its just that whole little statement there was silly. Your chances of encountering someone that doesnt have images turned on is a lot less then finding someone without a flash plugin. Thats foolish if you really believe that Im sorry to tell you but its true. Also your chances of encountering someone that doesnt have a browser that supports WC3 xhtml and css code standards is about -0-. In fact I just fell ..out of my chair and Im in the proccess of laughing so hard that ... I ... might ... pass ...... out..................................
Know your stuff before you rant about your "ideology" .
thanks, i dont have to answer that one as i told earlier, i wanted to show everything to some users instead of something to every user.
rest, thanks for the compliment :) you finally convinced me that i was not totally wrong but i was totally correct about no one understanding plain-english.
also, it seems funny of you telling me of percentage chances when i rejected chance by saying i want to show to "some" users.
I honestly think you talk just to listen to yourself. In the statement that I replied to you were talking about standards then made a weird statement that points to a solution that makes no sense. I think you pad your speeches down with nonsensical dibble to make yourself sound deep. If you had something that made people think I probably wouldn’t be saying anything but unfortunately you don’t. Its not impressive, rather Photoshop tutorial looking, and poorly organized. I’m still looking for this deep under lying message that you seem to have there but it must have went way over my head. Sorry buddy your just too deep for me. [Sarcasm] But you keep up the good work you seem to have a very good handle on reality and how the web works. [/Sarcasm]
i realize this thread is becoming a one-on-one debat. so i will just tell clearly what i had been trying to convey. if you had thought little on why i chose flash whereas html would be easier, here's the answer. i exported the exactly same thing in html from photoshop, it looked ok. but when i was in "someone"'s home, i checked it and design broke as that "someone" was using mozilla not ie. as no one would migrate to a new browser just for the sake of a single website, i designed it in flash.
sorry i couldn't convey it before and instead used the word which seemed to you as i was trying to convey a philosphy whereas i wasn't. as i recall someone saying "the basics of philosphy is that not every philosphy implies everywhere". i am really sorry if it seemed to you i was trying to "provoke thoughts". and thanks for the sarcasm, i will always remember flash kit for your kind replies.
kamran_pro - its a website and now you have taken this post entirely too serious. First and foremost, you yourself must accept 'constructive criticism'. Second, because your site 'broke' in another browser means one thing. With all your 'coding' experience (as stated in your bio) you need to learn how to write more portable / cross browser code - throw out the tables and use CSS maybe? :) Anyway, as far as your site goes its archaic. I personally found the background design to be nauseating and unclear. The color theory needs work unless you’re going for a royal site. The typography is ok; however it does not lend itself well to the rest of the sites style, which is being pulled in several directions. The navigation is lackluster at most.
Keep refining the design - maybe consider a larger site with a readable area for which to read each section.
Best of luck,
Tyler
GameDev- Thanks a lot for finally pulling this post in right direction. That's the kind of criticism I like and welcome without any prob :) so I may be able to design better as I don't have a good design sense. Can you please explain more the lacks in navigation you see so I may try to improve them.
I can tell you why it was broken in Mozilla and not in Internet explorer. Its not because you used standards that aren’t current, its because the code was bad. Fire Fox supports a new version of html known as Xhtml transitional. This means that it’s a midway point to the new Xhtml standards. Fire Fox enforces Html code more strictly so in laymen’s terms I’m saying that internet explorer wont interpret what your code states exactly it will instead look at your code and decided what it thinks the site should look like not what the code states; where as with a situation like Fire Fox your code will be interpreted literally and exactly. This is why your site looked messed up, in the future look into using the W3C'Svalidation forms for checking your code and then sending it all out.
Also be aware that the type of program you are using to construct your web pages if not by hand might be inserting depricated html into your sites. Make sure you are using Xhtml to make the basic stucture and Css to control the overall site.
I also tried to check why it broke, it was exported with XHTML settings from Photoshop and I expect peers at Photoshop to take care of browser compaitability. That was actually a bug relating to tables in Mozilla. I admit that if I remade the whole design using CSS I would have found a way through it. But due to plain lazziness I didn't make the whole web using CSS.
So can you please tell me in more detail about defects in design as I told you earlier I am not a natural born designer and I admit there are many defects in the webdesign.
As far as I know photoshop exports as html and not the new standards for xhtml that is the first problem. Site control with css is the future as far as html web design goes, using the old tags shouldnt cause any problems yet but wierd code will . I havent heard of any bugs in the way firefox displays tables but I could be wrong Ive been out of the loop for some time now (php does that to people). Anyway the only real way to know unless you really want to spend all that time learning xhtml's ins and outs is the use the w3c's validation forms. When building a site using xhtml and css its best to stick with very basic functions since most of CSS2 is not supported yet with the exception of Fire Fox. Even limited to the basics you are still provided with all you need to really make the most out of your site. Things such as roll overs without javascript, and tableless layout are very possible. Using frame mimicing techniques, certain background settings, and alot of other really cool goodies are not. Expect them within the next 5-10 years but until then we are stuck with a transitional incomplete web technology. But on the lighter side knowing all this will put you one step ahead of the game concidering the fact that alot of big development companies still use old code and never check to see if it validates... Check out some of the html versions of the cool site companies and see what I mean :)
Photoshop CS can export as XHTML Transitional 1.0 :) and that's why I chose it, I also checked it through W3C's validator and it was OK. Sincerely this leads to that Mozilla had a bug. I am concious about XHTML and all but alas only because of a little girl having Mozilla with a bug I had to listen....leave it.Quote:
As far as I know photoshop exports as html and not the new standards for xhtml that is the first problem.
Thanks I'm finding it useful to discuss things with you.
Well you learn something everyday lol never noticed I could set it to xhtml in ps or image ready lol, dont ever really export much from ps or imageready though :(. Well you seem set in your ways, and probably dont care about fixing the other layout. Its got to be code that isnt supported yet, Ive made sites entirely in css and haven had any display issues. Can you give me a link to some infomation about this bug so I dont run into it in the future?
Im going to assume you have downloaded and installed FireFox 1.0 - the first official release and not the public beta.
-t
I guess I should have asked that question also. As far as I know its a solid browser with no bugs that do what hes is talking about.
Yeah, I would agree. I have had no problems w/ sites that are fully W3C compliant. Is it 508 compliant? Maybe we could see the 'breakage' in other browsers?
-Tyler
Weee its good to see that there are still people that really care enough to learn XHTML. I remember when I first started what it was like and now finaly its starting to really take shape. The technology still has some years left woot glad to see all Ive learned hasnt been outdated by flash hehe.
ZeroInspiration, you should never have thought that people have stopped learning XHTML, at the least me. I always prefer XHTML where it can be used and I have used W3C's validator much more than my fellow web designers. And everything you learned about XHTML is still as useful as knowing how to drive a car, no matter on which model you practiced.
And XHTML is complete, as far as I think there is nothing much important left in it that we may call as "has some years left to go". Excluding some eye candies of course. Who wants custom colored scrollbars to be a part of XHTML?
About FireFox, yes I downloaded it but I didn't install it, because IE is not making any problems till yet, the problem was in that girl's Mozilla which is renowned to have problem with tabled layouts. I have suggested her to switch ot firefox just as I suggest everyone with an old browser.
Moreover designing with CSS is a time taking task for such complexed tabled layouts such as exported by PS. I guess after my exams are finished I'd do try to do that. Meanwhile, can you please finally tell me something about my contents and/or design deficiences in more detail?