Macromedia hacked by Adobe? :eek:Quote:
Nah, just joking. This is as official as it can get. ;)
Fredi
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Macromedia hacked by Adobe? :eek:Quote:
Nah, just joking. This is as official as it can get. ;)
Fredi
wow, huge stuff. maybe adobe can finally unleash the real power that could be flash....
Wow... :eek:
man, i mean, wow, i mean...holy crap!
this is so huge.
i've emailed every designer i know.
would love to tell my boss, but he's a duke MBA...what does he care?
hmmm, my wife wouldn't care either.
i need to go talk about this...coffee anyone?
I hope they don't get rid of Fireworks, I've been using that for years and I depend on it for my job. :(
Same here. I was driving in when they announced it on Marketplace. One of the few things that have made me say Holy Sh*t!!!Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
hell, I was sleepy. This news woke me up like a cold shower.
I haven't had time to really digest this, so I'll give you all my dark cloud knee-jerk reactions.
I'm terrified mostly of what will become of Dreamweaver and Cold Fusion. I see Cold Fusion ceasing to exist, and Dreamweaver being so tightly integrated with designer tools, that the strong coding and application development features will either stand still or disappear.
I sincerely hope they don't touch Flash at all, and keep the same team on board. Too many strides have been made trying to turn it into a serious client-side technology, not just for funny cartoons.
Biggest of all, Macromedia has been pretty good, especialy as of late, of listening to developers and communicating with them.
More later. Must get to work. For now:
Mike Chambers has a long post I'm going to read.
Also, info from Adobe.
My biggest "Flash" fear is Actionscript... Macromedia has come a LONG LONG way with actionscript since I started using it with Flash 4. Adobe really has no products with languages. Everything revolves around the designer, not the developer. Don't get me wrong, I like Photoshop, and Photoshop/Flash/Illustrator integration would be awesome... I just hope it doesn't stagnate the progress that has been made with the Actionscript.
At times the changes Macromedia has made to the language have been hard to follow for us "old folks." Slash Syntax to Dot Syntax, onClipEvent(enterframe) to setInterval etc... But once us "Flash Programmers" clear each new hurdle, a vast array of new abilities are opened up. XML, Actionscript Drawing, just to name a quick few are examples of these. While I don't know what the Actionscript Language Designers at Macromedia had planned for the future of the language, I do hope they are allowed to continue and Adobe doesn't see Flash as "Imageready For Vectors"
I don't use Cold Fusion at all, but thats another project I see Adobe killing with the popularity of PHP and ASP, and their lack of experience designing and developing languages. I just hope the same thing doesn't happen to flash.
Hmmm.... "Adobe + Macromedia"? Just wondering if Adobe felt it needed to beat Apple to the punch? I wouldn't worry too much about MM's product thumbprint, since Adobe just announced CS2 it'll have to make a promise soon about integration lest theey dry up all their sales. Then there's alway- promises, promises...
Skraut- not sure I'd agree with the take on Adobe and languages. Adobes opened up scripting to all their products- and I'm not taking about just allowing designers to batch processes. I think Adobe would embrace AS and ties to real developers across the product line. I suspect GoLive would concede to DreamWeaver much as LiveMotion made an unconditional surrender to Flash.
Wow ... huge news!
I'm assuming Dreamweaver and Flash will remain. Photoshop/Imageready and Illustrator will replace Fireworks and Freehand in that workflow. I'd assume Golive will be eliminated in favor of Dreamweaver down the road.
Heh...someone posted this on Forta's blog.
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i just thought of another interesting component in all of this....
my team develops all the training for my company, so this includes elearning (flash) as well as classroom (framemaker). i wonder what kind of content sharing this will open up, and even if they will actually put framemaker to bed (in favor of indesign). i know those are both adobe products, but indesign will integrate better with the MM tools...
We can only pray that adobe don't screw us all.
They won't be happy until there's 1 application that does everything.
I guess they'll kill off Authorware, not like anyone will miss it.
Will Adobe be as eager to sink time and money into developing products that aren't popular yet, but have potential? Flex? Central? What's going to happen to Breeze?
Best recommendation: Buy Macromedia, change nothing. Make them a subsidiary, keep them independent.
they'll never do that, behind every corporate merger like this are economies of scale. I don't know if Adobe are using debt to finance this takeover but either way they will rationalise, this means one distribution network, one research department (not physically of course) and so on. There will be costs saved all over the place by combining function.Quote:
Originally posted by PAlexC
Best recommendation: Buy Macromedia, change nothing. Make them a subsidiary, keep them independent.
Whether the MM spirit of research survives we can only hope so, it's impossible to know.
Well, it's too early to tell. We don't even know if the Macromedia developers will still be on board (although you'd assume they would be).
If so, I wouldn't worry about it. I think the idea would be to focus on the top selling programs (Flash, Dreamweaver etc.)
I agree that Cold Fusion is going bye-bye. (That'll suck for the FI guys who based the entire backend of their website on ColdFusion according to their videos, but that can all be done with PHP anyway).
I agree with everyone else, I hope they continue to develop ActionScript with the people who were working on it. It CANNOT go back to being a tool for just making cartoons after it's just getting its legs to do so much more.
Very interesting. Anyone who's been around FK for several years - remember how common it was to say we would all one day like to see a large amount of elements of Photoshop incorporated into Flash? This was, of course, before the integration of video into Flash. I used to wish for a way to blur text and images in a way that felt like using the Filter tools in PS right there in Flash and in the timeline.
Who knows what the outcome will be, it's anyone's guess. I agree with everyone who said Adobe should keep their hands off the Flashplayer.
Hmmm, what if there were to combine PDF viewing capability into Flashplayer as one download?
I think this could be a very good thing. I like the idea of tighter integration with my primary apps and getting all the upgrades i need in 1 package.
it also could go bad... all of the eggs in 1 basket... i agree still early to tell.
yeah, authorware is gone i'm sure - 3 years too late if you ask me! it will be interesting to see what happens with captivate and breeze. are they going to try to stay in the training space, or let somebody like webex or centra buy that portion of the business? also, i wonder if they will sell off acrobat. i know, that sounds crazy, but i know microsoft has been interested in the framemaker property. document production is more in line with microsoft's office monopoly that with this new designer/develop focused monster.
I sense a disturbance in the Force.