Explore thoroughly: http://www.submethod.com/
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Explore thoroughly: http://www.submethod.com/
hey creep. (that sounds bad, i mean it in a nice way :D)
that's definitely a great site. great sound and i always enjoy experimental flash. for future reference it helps to post the url in the subject of the thread. helps with the feedback.
thanks for the link.
check out:
http://www.designgraphik.com/
http://www.vir2l.com/
i believe some of the designers from submethod work for vir2l. :)
just hard 2 read some of the text.
There was some guy shaving on this site!
Its a nice site, the only thing I would recommend is that you deal with your issues. Wheres the love,,...man??
:)
no thanks.....
I thought "GREAT" when I saw the main screen.
But I gave up half way through those samples. It turns out these guys don't really have anything to say after all.
I think it's refreshing that there is a site with words and attempts to say something, but let us not forget, words mean nothing unless they are arranged into meaningful sentences which is not the case here , just like they say on the front page, before you speak better have something to say.
They should have stopped speaking at the first page because obviously they are just another bunch of designers who try to pass themselves off as artists.
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Originally posted by Taiyo
They should have stopped speaking at the first page because obviously they are just another bunch of designers who try to pass themselves off as artists.
Woah, that's harsh! Talk about letting someone have it. The funny thing is its absoultely true. Its like a group of people saw someone else's sensitive web site and said, "I can do that." I found the graphichal depiction and layout of the site much in the fashion as the two sites Mr. 8minus8 = ZERO posted. Anyway cheers and jeers all around.
I found it resembled volumeone.com alot but in a darker way. All the pictures were done the same and in the same type of order...I like volumeone.com better though
Yes I completely agree. Seems like most web designers think that because they are using flash that they need to look and act like artists.. many of these self-proclaimed experimentalist web designers don't have any real artistic background, and compared to most real artistic sentiments, their art + web design comes off very bad, rather silly actually. Why not just stick to designing things, if that's what you're good at???? :PQuote:
Originally posted by Taiyo
obviously they are just another bunch of designers who try to pass themselves off as artists.
:)
it's actually ms. 8minus8 to you. ;) the reason those sites are similar in 'fashion' is because those sites were designed by the same designers. i was just bringing in some of their work. alot of interesting points have been brought up. but i have to disagree with some of the comments posted here. i think submethod is a great combination of imagery, sound and text. this site eludes to the designers form of expression. some of the thoughts might be obvious but i find this site refreshing in its explaination and design overall. for those who haven't already - i would read their mission statement and check out the artists who designed the site. like i said i have to disagree, alot of these sites have made thier mark in the flash design arena. harsh indeed not to say they are not artists....'agree to disagree'. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Xerobot
much in the fashion as the two sites Mr. 8minus8 = ZERO posted. Anyway cheers and jeers all around.
[Edited by 8minus8 on 01-21-2001 at 02:44 PM]
I have to say I agree w/8minus8... the site is experimental in nature, and the artists/designers (let's not debate the difference - there is such a fine line which blurs the closer you inspect it) experimented not only with fun/interesting ways to present info (derivative only if they had not taken it farther), but w/the content itself. There is some beautiful imagery, and statement that goes beyond 'I know how to use Flash 5'. Nice audio, too.
-S
The line between design and art is only blurry from designers' side.
Artists see it very clearly.
enlighten us artist... where is your homepage link anyway?Quote:
Originally posted by Taiyo
The line between design and art is only blurry from designers' side.
Artists see it very clearly.
As both an artist and designer, I can say that if you do both art and design, the line is quite blurred -- each endeavor influences the other.
If you are looking for more concrete evidence that art and design are kissing cousins: Both art and design attempt to communicate a message to the viewer. Neither the artist nor the designer (if they have integrity) attempt to make something beautiful which isn't, or to make the ugliness of the world beautiful -- both are purveyors of truth. (When money becomes part of the equation, both the designer and artist might abandon this role... but that is not the fault of art or design).
The common ground of the artist and designer is vast -- the differences just lip service to the egos of a few.
IMHO
-S
defining the term "art" is mad redundant.
one could sprawl on to discuss if there is a difference between art and science and what an artist's purpose should be, blah blah blah. and that's why it's a fun subject!
i am an artist because i put an emphasis on expressing myself and communicating in a manner that stimulates [subjective] one or more of the senses. while i feel that art [and life] is about becoming and not about achieving, i also recognize that i'm completely dumb and i have no effect on anything of any major significance.
pshhh|pal|www.dumb-dumb.com
Hi 8-8, thanks for those links, really enjoyed them.Quote:
Originally posted by 8minus8
hey creep. (that sounds bad, i mean it in a nice way :D)
that's definitely a great site. great sound and i always enjoy experimental flash. for future reference it helps to post the url in the subject of the thread. helps with the feedback.
thanks for the link.
check out:
http://www.designgraphik.com/
http://www.vir2l.com/
i believe some of the designers from submethod work for vir2l. :)
I liked the links aswell - donka shey
If i were to say that most web programmers call themselves graphic designers this would probally be true? however that would be stereotyping. and that is not the case.
Taiyo i really disagree with you. you sound jaded. however if you can enlighten me go for it.
"They should have stopped speaking at the first page because obviously they are just another bunch of designers who try to pass themselves off as artists."
Please explain this line to me because I don't know where it is.
I'm really confused what is the line.
Hubie