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    By tomorrow would be good.

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    Is there a possibility of including dynamic text or text that can be loaded from an external file?

    Thanks Roger, SWISH is one of the best programs out there.

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    Hey, not sure if this has been mentioned, but (what i get anyway) when i sometimes click preview, the movie doesnt play correctly, a text effect is missing or goes in the wrong direction, something silly. but when saved and opened in a browser it works fine, must be a bug? anyone else had this?

    Also Panels, they get annoying if you accidently move one of them and it attaches itself to another, then it takes 10mins to get it back to where it 'spose to be... just annoying. thats it, rest of the stuff has been mentioned

    Cheers

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    bug: Somehow when I was resizing an effect directly to the left of a frame with 'place' (I was dragging the right end of the effect to the left, away from the play), the place got extended to 2 frames. Not really sure how it happened, I know its nothing, just in case it matters.

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    Re: Idea!!!

    Originally posted by Mad Axeman
    I would like to suggest that you double the amount of tools you can have (custom made menu etc) abd be able to change the icon of anything you make.
    What tools would you like?
    You can already customise menus and toolbars.
    Also I would like to see loads more effects and some new types of effects (instead of explosion, transform etc)
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    What types of effects would you like?

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    Re: next version of swish

    Originally posted by franticcut

    1. As previous - panels instead of toolbars
    SWISH has panels already .. and the toolbars are resizable, dockable, floatable, and customisable.
    2. Icon for preview in player instead of submenu.
    Create a toolbar entry for it and/or a hot key using the TOols menu
    3. Icon for create projector (possible?)
    Same thing (when we give you a Export to project exe option)
    3. pdf manual online
    There is one already .. have to look up the URL for you as I've forgotten it
    4. icon change: more visual distinction between new scene and new sprite
    They seem quite different to me .. got any suggsetions?
    6. window size maginifcation controls - a slider or finer control
    You can zoom with the zoom tool to zoom to a rectangle
    7. meta tags - controls for those of us who use newer versions of flash instead of having to edit by hand everytime
    What has this to do with news versions of flash?
    8. source and destination folder options instead of default
    Swish remembers the folder you use for SWI files, SWF files and HTML publishing
    annoying:
    1. automatic swish meta tags
    SWiSH publish to HTML is a sample HTML only .. noone should seriously use this to give a complete web page. You can always edit them out.
    2. lack of detailed documentation on use until you discover the boards or unpick others swi's
    Have you looked at the help files .. they're pretty detailed
    3. icons are non standard
    Which icons .. and please tell me what 'standard' you are referring to. We've used standard windows icons whereever they exist.

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    Originally posted by l2oBiN_Ho0D
    NEEDS
    1.Movie Explorer - Just like in flash, it makes life so much easier.
    We've had one of those long before flash decided to get one .. its the Outline panel.
    2. In depth help files
    Have you seen how much info is in our help files already? What more depth do you want?
    3. Background invisible/dissaper just like in dirrector 8.5
    Already there .. look in the Export panel HTML options
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    Re: This may have been covered already, I'm not sure.

    Originally posted by Kinara

    I browsed through the thread, but either I missed it or you didn't reply to the wish of Forms, like text boxes drop down list and stuff. If you did my apologies. If not would like to know.
    text boxes (for forms) are non-trivial to do. We'll do them sometime .. its just a matter of when we get the time etc. Its not helped by bugs in flash player source and SWF docs from macromedia.
    Wish List.
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    1. Scripting (like for loops, conditional statements,
    variables), I would like to send the movie
    head to a frame number and play the effect 5
    times before returning back to the original
    position. More like a GOTO statement.
    You'll be able to do that
    2. Forms. (Input Boxes, Variables with data types, time
    and date functions, etc)
    Only have forms if we get the time and can work out the MM docs on it.
    3. Shape Tweeining.
    Tricky to get a User Interface for it .. its seomthing on our wish list for a later version once we can nut out the interface issues to make it easy to use and consistent with existing SWISH UI
    4. Effects like Lens flare, flash light, Starfield
    simulation as a background effect. Spotlights etc
    We try to avoid such specialised effects, and rather have effects that can be built upon and customised. When we've got the level of flexibility we want for those, then we'll look at providing specialised effects (either in the program or as smapel effects).

    The effects you want you can do with existing effects, then save in a SWI and copy/paste to reuse in other movies.
    5. Better Javascript support.
    You can put Javascript into a SWI file .. there is nothing much else we can do .. you get as much and as little support for javascript as your browser supplies.
    6. Save as Screen Saver/Animated Gifs.
    There are lots of tools for making screen savers from SWF files with all sorts of options and features. There is little point in us competeing with those as there is not one single solution and we've got other things we can do to improve SWiSH instead. Animated GIF's .. hmm .. maybe .. depends on licensing issues
    7. Better looking Buttons.
    SWiSH buttons look only as good as you draw them .. Swish v2 doesn't have its own buttons. It DOES display a blue button-like shape as a placeholder for an empty button while you're editing .. but that's not really a button. You have to draw the button yourself (or find some of the free SWF buttons on the internet and import them).
    8. Fill tool for objects
    There are already fill options (solid color, gradient, bitmap image). There are the only filling options SWF format supports.
    9. Flash looking backgrounds. you know like checker boxes
    and stuff.
    Draw them or import them. Same as those who originally drew them did.

    Are you really just looking for more sample files?
    10. Improved key generation security, I believe there is a
    huge flaw and Swish security is vulnerable to this
    abuse. I'll send a seperate email addressing that issue.
    That's definitely on our list (though I don't see it being any more or less vulnerable than and other method) .. but the solution we've bought in (crypkey) is rather fragile (as evidence by the bug reports of people having problesm with their license/keys)

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by roger_onslow
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    Originally posted by l2oBiN_Ho0D
    NEEDS
    1.Movie Explorer - Just like in flash, it makes life so much easier.
    We've had one of those long before flash decided to get one .. its the Outline panel.
    2. In depth help files
    Have you seen how much info is in our help files already? What more depth do you want?
    3. Background invisible/dissaper just like in dirrector 8.5
    Already there .. look in the Export panel HTML options
    What I meant by the Movie Explorer improvemnts is that it needs clear indication of all the actions used, jus like in flash. It gets quite complicated sometimes searching for the right object/ action used.

    What I meant for background invisible is not when you publish, to make the background invisible, but when you inport a graphic with say black background you could easily select object options and select background white. Have you seen Director 8.5 Roger? Tht is what I am talking about. Hope you get me..

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    TextFields...pretty please!

    I wish for "TextFields" input & dynamic...I could live with just input for now though!

    SWiSH & PHP would be soooooo sweet!

    Cheers...ziggy

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    Wish:
    1. To have a wizard or someway to build a flash menu like on macromedia website...

    2. To be able to right click on any flash object on a webpage and open it in Swish 3.

    3. To have a template for a start up page for a webiste where it has the feature to skip the prievew.

    4. Windows XP type look of icon's for swish 3.

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    Additional Wishes:

    1. Also is there any text fields that are possible.

    2. Advanced features for possible database connection(possiblity I don't know but it is an idea)

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    "2. To be able to right click on any flash object on a webpage and open it in Swish 3. "

    Isn't #2 real close to, if not actually, theft? I know there are programs out there that enable you to do such things but for SWiSH I don't see why one would need to. "Create Flash without Flash" not "Create Flash by using Flash someone else already created".

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    It wasn't my intentions to steal there work just to see how they built it...


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    How about Dynamic text so the same text effect could be applied to different length text strings kept in an index?This would really save me a lot of time plus should reduce file size.

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    After reading 12 pages on this thread I'll add a wished for feature I didn't see:

    A graphic representation of which object handle is being referenced on the Swish transform panel. This is to replace the current drop down with 'Top left', 'Top right' etc. Like the little icon on the transform palette in Adobe Illustrator.

    On another note - even though this is only my second post on this board in a year I have been following the Swish story for quite a while. Well done to the Swish team on a fantastic program

    Regards

    Shaun


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    Please make able to paste a text from office or whatever without losing the format (paragraphs etc.)

    Swish is great and I'm sure that its getting better...

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    Roger - did I miss out - was I too late with this post:

    Originally posted by Vitruvius

    A graphic representation of which object handle is being referenced on the Swish transform panel. This is to replace the current drop down with 'Top left', 'Top right' etc. Like the little icon on the transform palette in Adobe Illustrator.
    Also - thought of two other features that woudl be on my wishlist:

    1. Ability to address multiple targets easily with a tell target command. eg seperating names with a comma... (If you can already do this and I just don't know - ignore this...)

    2. Call me lazy if you like, but a facility to add rounded corners to rectangles drawn in Swish would make my life alot easier...

    Ta

    Shaun

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    vitruvius -

    1 - i don't think it's allowed w/in the Flash API to have a TellTarget command that refers to more than one sprite at a time.

    2 - select the rectangle object. click once on the drawing area and release. move your mouse to where you'd like your rectangle to extend to. now click and hold the mouse and drag back towards the middle of the rectangle to round the corner.

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    Originally posted by persaltier

    2 - select the rectangle object. click once on the drawing area and release. move your mouse to where you'd like your rectangle to extend to. now click and hold the mouse and drag back towards the middle of the rectangle to round the corner.
    persaltier -

    I hat eit when that happens - a feature has been present in Swish all along - and I have had my head in the sand

    Thanks for the tip...

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