Adult Sites: Are they Fit for a Portfolio?

[RazoRmedia]

send them all to me. Seriously, its one of those things that come down to beliefs I suppose. I was not brought up with a religous background, my family is very open minded and therefore so am I. I believe that the nudity mentioned there would not offend me, I would take the site on and I would be upfront with my girlfriend (although two weeks of persistant nagging would possibly make me deaf in one ear), I would take the money and run.

business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefs.

[TheOriginalFlashDavo]

Hey, send it to me! I would have no qualms in doing the job, but I wouldn't feature the site on my portfolio.

It would certainly be avauilable for viewing for any clients in the same marketplace, but not for most of them.

[Jamez Brown]

Could you email the link to me?? to see how good it is?


thanks!

[RazoRmedia]

Originally posted by Jamez Brown
......to see how good it is?

ha ha, yeah right!!!

[jhepburn]

I have an adult site on my web portfolio... it's a flash site and it's got me tons of work! The screen shots I show in my portfolio are semi clothed. The site is not porno, just nudes... is your porno??

I send my website out to everyone, but I only send the link to those who I know can handle it, ie those in the entertainment industry... and some of those can't handle it... so use your intuition. When I do a printed presentation of my portfolio I usually don't include it as I don't want to make the client uncomfortable whilst sitting in front of me! In my cover letters I always list my favourite links and beside the nude site, I put in parenthesis (nude art)...!

this is the site mod edit and my portfolio site is mod edit

I know its art and not porn but please email for the url if you are interested, this is a g rated site and therefore, kids can see this.

Sorry
[Edited by RazoRmedia on 06-07-2002 at 05:11 PM]

[octothorp]

Personally, if this was me, I'd leave it out unless I was absolutely sure about the person I was presenting it to, and if I was really desperate for portfolio content.

In most corporate environments, managers have to answer to other managers or a board of directors for their decisions, and few people will risk their career over something like hiring a web-developer who also designs port sites. Regardless of the ethical right or wrongs of the situation, not everyone is willing to discuss it the way some of us would.

It's like this: maybe 50 percent of interent users have surfed for porn. But you'd have a hard time finding people who are willing to give their name and home address with a statement that they support internet porn. And when a manager starts hiring people who have worked for the porn industry, somebody somewhere is going to see that as a vote of endorsement of porn.

It's a tough call, but in my mind, not worth the risks.

-#

[nocrapchurch]

Originally posted by RazoRmedia
business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefs.

I'm sure this is what gansters say.

Come on. What if someone wanted you to perform terrorist acts or kill children. Your personal beliefs have to mix with business.

How else could you live with yourself?

-scott

[RazoRmedia]

Originally posted by nocrapchurch

Originally posted by RazoRmedia
business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefs.

I'm sure this is what gansters say.

Come on. What if someone wanted you to perform terrorist acts or kill children. Your personal beliefs have to mix with business.

How else could you live with yourself?

-scott

wait a minute, how on earth can the 2 be compared?

It is not my personal belief that killing children is wrong, it is wrong on all levels, its the fact of life that it is wrong.

Any rationally thinking human being knows it is wrong to kill children or to perform acts of terrorism.

Porn is not wrong in the same sense, it may be morally wrong for some people but this is dependant on their background and upbringing.

Sorry Scott but that comparison is terrible. If you'd have compared porn with prostitution and control over women, I could have understood



Bruce

[penlix]

First of all I don't really see the relation of the adult site to what you are doing in the future.. It's not as if someone might think you're a "rough" person of the night just because you designed a site with adult material? As long it's worth showing, and obvisouly you say it is, you can use it as you like.. Explaining it to your partner is a different matter

And btw, the blayne site is very nice!

[nocrapchurch]

Originally posted by RazoRmedia

Originally posted by nocrapchurch
Come on. What if someone wanted you to perform terrorist acts or kill children. Your personal beliefs have to mix with business.

How else could you live with yourself?

-scott

wait a minute, how on earth can the 2 be compared?

It is not my personal belief that killing children is wrong, it is wrong on all levels, its the fact of life that it is wrong.

Any rationally thinking human being knows it is wrong to kill children or to perform acts of terrorism.

Porn is not wrong in the same sense, it may be morally wrong for some people but this is dependant on their background and upbringing.

Sorry Scott but that comparison is terrible. If you'd have compared porn with prostitution and control over women, I could have understood



Bruce

I think the comparison works.

My point is that there is a line where getting paid isn't worth it.

I don't think it matters if its killing babies, prostitution, abusing women, selling sex, or designing porn sites. Just because something is socially acceptable in parts of the world, doesn't mean we can't have a personal conviction that will keep us from profiting from it.

The porn example
Porn is legal in America (and I'm assuming the UK). So its not "wrong on all levels" (as you say). But porn is completely illegal in Saudi Arabia. I guess that would make living in Saudi Arabia and viewing porn "wrong on all levels".

Continuing on this thought - if someone from Saudi Arabia moves to America, should they forget any personal beliefs they had on porn so they can make a buck? Its no longer "wrong on all levels" for them to do it.

Killing women in public
If you're thinking "yes", look at America. Killing women in public for things like letting their hair hang out is "wrong on all levels" and even considered ridiculous. But move to Saudi Arabia where women are shot in the street for letting even one strand of hair hang out. And to top it off, if those around her don't kill her on the spot, they are considered just as guilty.

Would you, as an American (or Englishman) now living in Saudi Arabia, throw out any beliefs you had about killing women in the streets, so you could make a buck?

There's got to be a line. Whether its religious, polictical, national, patriotic, or just personal, there are beliefs that aren't worth throwing out for money.

-scott

[RazoRmedia]

scott,

re-read my post, I never said porn was wrong on all levels, I said killing children was. I said porn was morally wrong dependant upon your beliefs.

[nocrapchurch]

Originally posted by RazoRmedia
scott,

re-read my post, I never said porn was wrong on all levels, I said killing children was. I said porn was morally wrong dependant upon your beliefs.

I know you never said that porn was wrong on all levels and that killing kids was. That's the whole point of my post. Re-read mine.

Re-cap
Porn is not "wrong on all levels" in the US/UK; it is "wrong on all levels" in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, it goes beyond anyone's personal beliefs; its the law.

Killing women is "wrong on all levels" in the US/UK; it is not "wrong on all levels" in Saudi Arabia.

-scott

[RazoRmedia]

saudi arabia takes away the individual freedom of choice about porn so it is a bad example

[RazoRmedia]

Originally posted by RazoRmedia
business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefs.

What I meant when I said this is that don't let others views and moral high ground cloud your judgement. Just because the media say one thing is bad doesn't neccesarily mean it is.

I mean to say, don't dismiss something on a whim, think it over, think of the benefits, the money, the pros, the cons. Don't let the general consensus guide your thinking.

Ok, that cleared it up for you Scott?

muppet

[nocrapchurch]

Originally posted by RazoRmedia

Originally posted by RazoRmedia
business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefs.

What I meant when I said this is that don't let others views and moral high ground cloud your judgement. Just because the media say one thing is bad doesn't neccesarily mean it is.

I mean to say, don't dismiss something on a whim, think it over, think of the benefits, the money, the pros, the cons. Don't let the general consensus guide your thinking.

Ok, that cleared it up for you Scott?

muppet

So a better way to say:

"business is business, don't mix it with your personal beliefts."

would be:

"business is business. Just because the mass media tells you its wrong or you're gut instinct says 'no', you should still think it over before you make any hasty decisions."

Does that sound right?

-scott

[RazoRmedia]

thats what i said manning

[TheOriginalFlashDavo]

Originally posted by nocrapchurch


Killing women in public
If you're thinking "yes", look at America. Killing women in public for things like letting their hair hang out is "wrong on all levels" and even considered ridiculous. But move to Saudi Arabia where women are shot in the street for letting even one strand of hair hang out. And to top it off, if those around her don't kill her on the spot, they are considered just as guilty.

Ummm... I think you should check your facts. Saudi Arabia is actually quite a liberated Arab country. Your comment's a little bit racist... I'm sure not deliberately but still...

[nocrapchurch]

Originally posted by TheOriginalFlashDavo

Originally posted by nocrapchurch


Killing women in public
If you're thinking "yes", look at America. Killing women in public for things like letting their hair hang out is "wrong on all levels" and even considered ridiculous. But move to Saudi Arabia where women are shot in the street for letting even one strand of hair hang out. And to top it off, if those around her don't kill her on the spot, they are considered just as guilty.

Ummm... I think you should check your facts. Saudi Arabia is actually quite a liberated Arab country. Your comment's a little bit racist... I'm sure not deliberately but still...

You're right. I was wrong about Saudi Arabia. I was thinking of Iran. And not just Iran today, but Iran back in the 80's.

So for anyone reading my previous posts insert "Iran during the 80's" where I say "Saudi Arabia".

I appologize to anyone I may have offended.

-scott