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    Hey everyone. I've got a kind of hard to phrase question here. The easiest way to explain it will be to just tell you what I'm trying to do...

    I've used 3ds max to animate a falling spaceship that eventually "shatters" into a bunch of particles. Then, I'm overlaying this ship over a video clip so that it looks like the space ship lands on a building and explodes. What I've done in Max is have a simple box represent the building. When the ship "hits" the box, it explodes into particles. Particles that strike the box will go right into it and thus not be visable. This is what I need for overlaying the animatio over the video clip, because I don't want any particles do be in front of the building if the ship landed on top of it. So, now for my question:

    I don't want that box to render out (because it would obviously obscure the building in the video clip). BUT, I do want the box to have the same effect on the particles (namely, make them invisible so that it looks like the building in the video clip is stoping the particles from going through it, or in front of it). How can I set Max render preferences or whatever so that I can hide the box, but still have it have the same masking effect on the particles?

    I beilieve I once read somewhere that you can put geometry in a scene to create shadows and light effects and then not have them render out, but still have the shadows they cast show up. It would probably be a technique similar to that, right? Thanks for any help you can offer,

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    Select box. Right-click. Hide.

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    yeah, that will keep the box from rendering, but I don't just want the box to not render. I want the box to not render while still hiding the particles it would be hiding if it had rendered.

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    What color is you background?

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    The background is green. I think I probably know where you're going, as I tried it too:

    I tried making the box the same color as the background so that it wouldn't show up against the background. Unfotunatley, I'm using the alpha channel when I render out (for when I composite the space ship over video in after effects) and so the building will still show up in the alpha channel (and thus over the video) even after I bring it into after effects. Any other suggestions?

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    I'm stumped. sorry

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    If you are putting this together in Flash, how about rendering out just the box and using that as a mask for the ship/particle animation?

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    Give this a shot.


    set your materials Specular Hightlights (Specular Level, Glossiness, soften) to 0.0 and do the same for the Opacity as well. if you dont like those results try this

    http://www.blur.com/blurbeta

    Get the shadows only plugin. make sure you download the blurLib first and place them in your plugin folder this should let you do just what it is you want.
    [Edited by Pope de Flash on 09-26-2002 at 10:00 AM]

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