am i a flash dinosaur?

**desparado** · 02-10-2003, 04:24 PM

I still build Flash sites by loading seperate .swf's into blank movie clips (y'know OOP). I have for years and never had any client complaints. Should i be updating my methods? maybe coldfusion + communication server? -Sincerely Timeline-asaurus Rex

**SpockBert** · 02-10-2003, 04:52 PM

nah...don't worry about it mate!

I used to think the same about my methods cos i like to use lots of looping movieclips, tellTarget, Call statements and so on, and I've never really been happy using my own Functions to reduce code, always found them a pain.

I though maybe I should upgrade my methods as they were old fashioned until someone on here posted some info that some of the old Flash4 tellTarget notation methods actually work faster than the newer Flash5 dot syntax!

Now I think, screw it! if your happy with your methods and they work, why change?

Dinosaurs are cool anyway

**desparado** · 02-10-2003, 07:28 PM

ahhhh tellTarget, that takes me back. Cool I wouldn't have guessed that any deprecated stuff ran quicker. I guess one day when flash player 8 is released our sites will self destruct! roarrrr!

**gdstudios** · 02-10-2003, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by desparado
I still build Flash sites by loading seperate .swf's into blank movie clips (y'know OOP). I have for years and never had any client complaints. Should i be updating my methods? maybe coldfusion + communication server? -Sincerely Timeline-asaurus Rex

No way, that is the standard way to do it even still.

**aversion** · 02-10-2003, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by desparado
I still build Flash sites by loading seperate .swf's into blank movie clips (y'know OOP). I have for years and never had any client complaints. Should i be updating my methods? maybe coldfusion + communication server? -Sincerely Timeline-asaurus Rex

there's no reason to use the comm server unless you're producing a multi-user app, there's no reason to use CF and flash remoting unless you're pushing data to your page, web services are available that use XML and are open source and more importantly free

OOP programing is good, if you've been doing it for years you should take a look at some of the coding practices at MM, the general idea is to separate out as much of your code from the content, keep as much as possible in the first few frames or even better in an external .as file. Using MX's new event model you can assign actions to MCs from the root timeline. All this helps make your flash as modular and easy to edit as possible. Check out some of the articles on macromedia.com on using the MVC model and that kind of stuff.

**Markp.com** · 02-10-2003, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by desparado
ahhhh tellTarget, that takes me back. Cool I wouldn't have guessed that any deprecated stuff ran quicker. I guess one day when flash player 8 is released our sites will self destruct! roarrrr!

This is only true between flash 4 and 5. FlashMX (6) runs commands at round about the same speed, or so I'm told... there's a good thread about it in the games lounge... do a search there.

**desparado** · 02-10-2003, 10:18 PM

aversion i will check those out, anything to stay in da loop. i agree 1 frame sites are where it's at. thnx, now I don't feel so old school.

By the way thnx for the tip on xara x couple weeks back it is a great program!

**aversion** · 02-10-2003, 10:23 PM

no worries, I'm using xara for a project right now

**nadskram** · 03-02-2003, 03:47 PM

so where can i find more about the free web services

we should have a list somewhere to get things like sports scores and news headlines, free, using xml.

**Mizak Diza** · 03-02-2003, 04:43 PM

...wait a second here...

what's all this talk about telltarget being old school? I still use it on a regular basis.

If it's so old, then what replaced it?

I must be a flash dinosaur.

**hurricaneone** · 03-02-2003, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Mizak Diza
what's all this talk about telltarget being old school? I still use it on a regular basis.

If it's so old, then what replaced it?

Telltarget has been deprecated (as of MX), replaced by dot syntax format.

eg _root.myclip.Play();

Something like that, anyway.

**gdstudios** · 03-02-2003, 06:44 PM

But the general method remains the same, despite syntax changes. Loading external SWF's into blank mc's.

**Mizak Diza** · 03-02-2003, 06:46 PM

beautiful, thanks for your help hurricane...

unfortunately by the time you posted I had already learned all about writing and calling functions, including controlling a timeline via dot syntax format (which, essentially, is done through calling a function)

I can just feel the power...

**aversion** · 03-02-2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Mizak Diza
I just learned all about writing and calling functions, including controlling a timeline via dot syntax format

I can just feel the power...

when until you start creating your own objects and classes, now that's power.

**Mizak Diza** · 03-02-2003, 06:50 PM

I can't wait

**dannywon1** · 03-02-2003, 07:32 PM

what i'm looking to do.

Im very new at all this, but at the same time, an old fart too, hehe.

I know a little about everything and have nothing mastered.

But Flash seems like a great program to learn. So lets see what we can come up with together and let me show you what i have and where i want to go.

I so far have two movies.

This will be my entrance:

http://www.compasssystem.com/training/training.html

This is my main menu

http://www.compasssystem.com/training/compass.html

as you will see, I lurk here a lot. This is nothing special, i know, but the content is not my concern.

My concern is how to load these in the best fashion without making a big huge mess of it all!

Should i use loadmovie, and if so, how do i do it, etc.. lol

Or should i just make the buttons and make an html for each individual movie.

Please explain in detail, im a stu-nod..lol

I m new like i said.. Hopefully i can offer something soon..

Thanks Danny

**SSurfer** · 03-03-2003, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by aversion
Using MX's new event model you can assign actions to MCs from the root timeline.

sounds interesting ... could you tell us how aversion?

thanks.

**gSOLO_01** · 03-03-2003, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by hurricaneone
Telltarget has been deprecated (as of MX), replaced by dot syntax format.

and/or with... from a post way back in august:

old:

Code:

on(release) {
     telltarget("myMC") {
          gotoAndStop(2);
          setProperty("myMC", _alpha, "30");
     }
}

new.1:

Code:

on(release) {
     myMC.gotoAndStop(2);
     myMC._alpha = 30;
}

new.2:

Code:

on(release) {
     with(myMC) {
          gotoAndStop(2);
          _alpha = 30;
     }
}

new.3:

Code:

_btn.onRelease = function() {
     with(myMC) {
          gotoAndStop(2);
          _alpha = 30;
     }
}

**gSOLO_01** · 03-03-2003, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by aversion
when until you start creating your own objects and classes, now that's power.

I've been playing with ASBroadcaster, ASSetPropFlags and some more of the undocumented, in addition to prototyping objects and the like... tres fun and empowering!

**gSOLO_01** · 03-03-2003, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by SSurfer
sounds interesting ... could you tell us how aversion?

Using the dot syntax...

_root._mc.sub_mc.onEvent = function() { //do something };

a good oop resource: http://www.debreuil.com/docs/ch01_Intro.htm

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