FK official war thread !!

[Bones12484]

Originally posted by Nik128
It argues that Dollar vs Euro is the main reason for this war.

I thought oil was the cause for this war. That or the West's desire to destroy Islam and the Middle East.

[/Joke]

Seriously though... does no one believe even the possibility of the Coalition having good intentions?

[Nik128]

Originally posted by gerbick
I'm making one point very clear... the UK does not, and has resisted using the Euro. Strengthening the Euro would be disadvantageous for the UK. They're enjoying the strength of the £ over the Euro.

Economical conspiracies aside, it makes less sense if you think about it. Not all crude is the same. In some cases, it costs more to refine than others due to how the refinery is set up for one type of crude, what not.

besides, you don't factor in the UN either.

I completely agree. But what does this have to with the article? Pound vs. Euro is not the topic here. And speaking of UN, of course there are those factors as well. Perhaps you had different factors in mind or from different point of view?

[gerbick]

my point of view will not be swayed by either the media or some utter sensationalism like that article.

Euro... think about it. It took what, 10+ countries to equal a weakened USA economy. And it's still not really comparing nor initially beneficial to the countries involved. I honestly admire the UK's decision to hold out to see if it's a viable solution before jumping in.

For instance, look at France and Germany at the moment. Their economies have both been hit.

How does that article tie into the current situation? I don't think it does at all... not unless you really like listening to stuff that makes no sense.

I'll state I could be wrong. But long-ranging effects like Nixon's gold-standard decision - which lead to the economical boom in the 80's as well as indirectly to tech stocks that were hugely overrated in returns - to how the US is now in a huge deficit have ties that are all over... ranging from bad management of money in this country, to a recession that really started in Japan, to the fact that the Euro was so weak, that the EU countries that owed us money, just couldn't pay.

The situation in Iraq, as complex or simple as you'd want to make it, boils down to a few things. There was a mad man in charge, it quickly became the US's interests to enter there, and the US went there.

Speculation on the events that lead to that will remain just that. Speculation.

and even though I have my own ideas, I think I'll keep them away from the boards.

[Nik128]

Again, I agree with most of your statements Gerbick. Though throughout much of 80's USA's economy was not doing well with unemployment rate of 9% and highest inflation and interest rates in 50 years. But to disregard that and not get off topic...

That article states different reasons behind this war, and perhaps reasons that we did not expect to hear. I'm sure you agree. Well, I do. It talks about different topics, and that is the primary reason I posted it up.

Initially, I started the topic with article in the new thread but found that moderators have quickly moved it here, and that's ok. However, I'd like to talk about the world economies and competition of currencies, not war in Iraq. For that reason I wish this would have remained a new thread, but oh well. Personally, I'm surprised after reading the article myself and find it hard to believe as well.

Nevertheless, I cannot disregard some theories mentioned in there, same as I cannot disregard the mad man controlling Iraq. And if you recall, the mad man you're speaking of had been in power for 12 years.

[gerbick]

who said I was talking about Saddam?

[TallGuyLittleCar]

Originally posted by Nik128
And if you recall, the mad man you're speaking of had been in power for 12 years.

if you are speaking of saddam, he has officially been in power for over 25 years, unofficially probably around 30.

[Nik128]

Well is that one of your ideas that you will keep away from the board?
You said "there" and logically it points to someone in that region. Unless you had a typo, I don't see what you meant

[Nik128]

Originally posted by TallGuyLittleCar
if you are speaking of saddam, he has officially been in power for over 25 years, unofficially probably around 30.

sorry, didn't say what I really meant and that was the era since the first Gulf War. Thought that was logical, guess not, sorry

[gerbick]

Originally posted by Nik128
Well is that one of your ideas that you will keep away from the board?
You said "there" and logically it points to someone in that region. Unless you had a typo, I don't see what you meant

[sexygoddess]

Thought this one sums up pretty much everything about this war or what people think about it at least.



All the rhetoric on whether or not we should go to war against Iraq has
got my insane little brain spinning like a roulette wheel. I enjoy
reading opinions from both sides, but I have detected a hint of
confusion from some of you.

As I was reading the paper recently, I was reminded of the best advice
someone ever gave me. He told me about the KISS method ("Keep it
Simple, Stupid"). So, with this as a theme, I'd like to apply this
theory for those who don't quite get it. My hope is that we can simplify
things a
bit and recognize a few important facts.

Here are 10 things to consider when voicing an opinion on this
important issue:

1) President Bush and Saddam Hussein.....Hussein is the bad guy.

2) If you have faith in the United Nations to do the right thing, keep
this in mind. They have Libya heading the Committee on Human Rights
and Iraq heading the Global Disarmament Committee. Do your own math
here.

3) If you use Google Search and type in "French Military Victories,"
your reply will be "Did you mean French Military Defeats?"

4) If your only anti-war slogan is "No war for oil," sue your school
district for allowing you to slip through the cracks and robbing you of
the education you deserve.

5) Saddam and Bin Laden will not seek United Nations approval before
they try to kill us.

6) Despite what some seem to believe, Martin Sheen is NOT the
President. He plays one on T.V.

7) Even if you are anti-war, you are still an "Infidel" and Bin Laden
wants you dead, too.

8) If you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy," but not in the danger
that Hussein poses, quit hanging out with the Dell computer dude.

9) We are not trying to liberate them.

10) Whether you are for military action, or against it, our young men
and women overseas are fighting for us to defend o ur right to speak
out. We all need to support them without reservation.

I hope this helps.

[aversion]

Originally posted by sexygoddess
I hope this helps.

nope

[gdstudios]

Originally posted by sexygoddess
I hope this helps.

Good post for the most part. For me, personally, items 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 are the most pertinent and the most irritating about the anti-war crowd.

[gerbick]

so.

who thinks that by the time this is all over, there will be major looting of the palaces?

and was it gold plating, or solid gold faucets?

[gdstudios]

Is he dead or what? Strike today may have killed Saddam and his sons for good.

[sexygoddess]

Well i was just watching the news and there was no mention that he was dead or alive i dont think anyone knows and they wont until they find his body if they ever do that is

[gdstudios]

Been listening to Fox and they have all sorts of good intel that says that the witch is dead. Ding dong...the witch is dead. Finally, now we give this country to the Iraqi people.

[gerbick]

wouldn't it be warlock?

[gdstudios]

Originally posted by gerbick
wouldn't it be warlock?

lol, I guess it would Gerbs.

[TallGuyLittleCar]

Originally posted by gerbick
wouldn't it be warlock?

reports are that he was .. ahem.. wounded .. ahem, in the first strike.

[gdstudios]

Originally posted by TallGuyLittleCar
reports are that he was .. ahem.. wounded .. ahem, in the first strike.

It's funny, they have no clue what happened that first night, you know? I've heard that Saddam died. That his son Uday died. That his other son Qusay died and the others are alive. I've heard that Uday was injured and is in Damascus right now healing. I've heard that Saddam is in the northern city of Mozul. I just don't get it, and, honestly, I don't trust anything I hear from any media outlet at this point. Don't you all have similar feelings?