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Originally posted by NerdInside
Why do you think I've been playing SOCOM so much? Such a pain to play though. I need to shut down it down, <brag> as it runs Linux when I'm not gaming</brag>, change memory cards, eject the DVD, put in SOCOM, boot up, and then play. I didn't play in like 2 months and they deleted my account 
I can get by on LinCity, TuxRacer, the offerings from http://games.mozdev.org/ , and FreeCraft.
Actually the offerings on Linux aren't bad.
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They're not bad, but they're not Raven Shield!
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Originally posted by gerbick
Debian or KRUD.
KRUD is basically a secured Redhat...
KRUD!!! Definitely. 
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Originally posted by jstarkey
KRUD!!! Definitely.
But it uses RPMs, those are painful.
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root
Open BSD is money...
Red Hat is easiest.
SUSE is elite.
Slackware is fun...
But SUSE is DVD/ 8 cd's
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Originally posted by NerdInside
But it uses RPMs, those are painful.
lol. I only posted so I could show my date the smilies here, sorry. She has chatted on a board before but didn't know what they were. Naturally, I had to use mrpimp
Use KRUD for the initial install and run up2date.
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root
Originally posted by jstarkey
lol. I only posted so I could show my date the smilies here, sorry. She has chatted on a board before but didn't know what they were. Naturally, I had to use mrpimp
Use KRUD for the initial install and run up2date.
i haven't used that yet... up2date.. how is it?
i heard it was a lot like windows update.
and i like rpms... i'll even open em up an inject it manually , LOL
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To be honest, I truly hate screwing with RPMs. But it may be from 2 years ago when they were a bit harder to work with. So, I'm not sure what you mean by injecting manually.
up2date is really nice. It solves all dependencies and installs everything, like ximian's red-carpet which I loved as well. up2date has the web interface though. If you have a bunch of machines, you can manage them all from rhn.redhat.com and schedule updates and reboots on kernel updates -- all the errata is right there. Makes it nice when you are remotely admining machines.
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root
Originally posted by jstarkey
To be honest, I truly hate screwing with RPMs. But it may be from 2 years ago when they were a bit harder to work with. So, I'm not sure what you mean by injecting manually.
up2date is really nice. It solves all dependencies and installs everything, like ximian's red-carpet which I loved as well. up2date has the web interface though. If you have a bunch of machines, you can manage them all from rhn.redhat.com and schedule updates and reboots on kernel updates -- all the errata is right there. Makes it nice when you are remotely admining machines.
I installed dhcp manually from an rpm.. just opened it and ran the script.. wanted to edit how it was injected.. so to speak..
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Originally posted by jstarkey
up2date is really nice. It solves all dependencies and installs everything, like ximian's red-carpet which I loved as well. up2date has the web interface though. If you have a bunch of machines, you can manage them all from rhn.redhat.com and schedule updates and reboots on kernel updates -- all the errata is right there. Makes it nice when you are remotely admining machines.
I'll say that up2date is the nicest system-wide updating utility for any distro, but still, it uses RPMs!!! I just can't stand RPMs. Nice when you first load the distro onto the system, but as you install more and more software using RPMs it just gets messy. I try to steer clear of RPMs whenever I can, to start by using a distro that doesn't have them (Slackware).
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poet and narcisist
oh boy, you guys are talking in chinesse....i don't understand a word......i have to do some research and learn a loooot of linux 
i think's that's the part linux has to improve......installation and administration for end users (well, i can manage myself, just need to do some research, but i do think most people are pretty stupid with computers, i can say that, cause i've been a helpdesk  )
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Installation is really easy with such distros as RedHat, Mandrake, and SuSE. It's just a matter of press the next button a few times.
As for administration, maybe. Installing software is rather easy, with or without RPMs. I don't think the average user coming from Windows will be doing anything like upgrading the kernel or XFree86. If they'd want to install say GAIM, it's as easy as downloading and then typing a few comands. Installing Mozila is even easier if you use the pre-compiled version. But I think I'm biased to Linux in this degree
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Not to mention your transitional Linuxes... AKA Lycoris and that Lindows thing, has one click installs in huge directories.
All the user has to do is click the mousey button and Bam Its installed. Kinda like the XUL installs- Click and install and Java Web Start- Click it and it installs and runs.
Addies for JavaWebStart and MozDev
http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
http://www.mozdev.org/projects/active.html
Addies for Iris and ClickNRun
http://www.lycoris.com/webservices/iris/
http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_categories.php
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I know this is probably dead but there is also Mepis linux .. it's a try it on cd kind of linux, but on the desktop there is also an icon that'll actually install it to your computer WHILE you are still on the live cd.
In order of fave:
Mepis, Knoppix, Vertual Linux, Slackware Live-CD, and Dynebolic Linux. They all fired up and worked with my year old computer, and the Mepis install (If you decide to use linux) is painless as can be.
I perchased Crossover Office to use Flash, Photoshop and Dreamweaver and it's almost as simple to use as if it were still in it's native OS. The drawback however is, crossover office does cost money, and some applications have bugs when running in Xoffice.
Hope I'm not too late, Linux is good stuff, you just have to snuggle up to it.
Justin
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dIgital pHoto dude!
FEDORA!
Rocking my Desktop at the mo!
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I second FEDORA .. it's the openSource version of RedHAT supported by RedHat ..
Its fast, easy and any idiot (like me) can install it, setup a webserver etc etc within minutes.
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Yes Fedora is pretty good stuff. I run my server w/Fedora this comp is still RH9 and I also boot into Mepis, Knoppix and sometimes STUX at work (w2k there).
Cheers,
Justin
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dIgital pHoto dude!
Dont get me started on BSD.
If BSD was soo cool, why do they use redhat on web-servers
Not startiong an argunment BTW, I thing FreeBSD is cool
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lol .. Linux is win95 in noobie friendlyness, and BSD is Linux two years ago .. maybe in a couple more years I'll be "un-noob" enough to fire up a bsd box, but until then, I'll go the "easyLinux" route and stick with the distro with the simple install I can convigure later ..
Nothing against bsd though, I have heard it's nice N stable once you learn how to get around in it.
And as far as Fedora goes? It's on this computer now too, but I'm still not a huge fan of it, it feels kind of heavy/bloated and I even installed most things myself after the minimal install.
Cheers, and woohoo it's snoiwing here .. might not have to go to work tonight! .. yeah man!
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