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    freelance / portfolio site

    I'd LOVE some feedback, suggestions on how to self promote - enable an HTML visitor counter.

    http://www.clogic.biz

    Thanks!
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    that is the only time i have seen a site with such a strong patterned interface, such lary colours, wierd background music and 3d combined

    but then again its the only time ive thrown up over a web site.

    sorry mate. i just dont like it
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    it's not your typical design but i do like it.

    the weird combo of colors and patterns does it for me.
    too bad it's one of squidfingers patterns and not yours.


    also love the artwork in your portfolio.

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    n-gen

    Originally posted by n-gen
    that is the only time i have seen a site with such a strong patterned interface, such lary colours, wierd background music and 3d combined

    but then again its the only time ive thrown up over a web site.

    sorry mate. i just dont like it

    I would expect that kind of remark from someone who's own website resembles the quiet, timid, corporate interpretation of the club scene. I'm not sure what made me yawn more, your "bold" use of color and "daring" imagery, or your less than inspired client work. I don't know about you, but I prefer my drinks straight up.

    cheers.
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    Re: n-gen

    Originally posted by zsiswick
    I would expect that kind of remark from someone who's own website resembles the quiet, timid, corporate interpretation of the club scene. I'm not sure what made me yawn more, your "bold" use of color and "daring" imagery, or your less than inspired client work. I don't know about you, but I prefer my drinks straight up.

    cheers.

    SNAP!!!


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    oh i get it, your not trying to get clients, now theres a good idea

    what i do for my clients is not my own taste ( i never said it was) im much more into 24-7 than the clean cut look. but the fact of the matter is clean cut sells

    if that site was made as a portfolio then thats a nice site but definately not a good platform to sell your work from.

    you call my site timid. its not timid its minimalist, unlike your "lets see how many colours of the rainbow i can fit on one site idea"

    and to cap it all of this is your job. im only just 15 and i do it part time as well as my exams. lets se what u where making at my age

    if u cant take my opinion then thats your problem, you cant be blind to others thoughts. stop being so defencive and listen.
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    Originally posted by n-gen
    oh i get it, your not trying to get clients, now theres a good idea

    what i do for my clients is not my own taste ( i never said it was) im much more into 24-7 than the clean cut look. but the fact of the matter is clean cut sells...blah blah blah
    Boy you sure do know a LOT for a fifteen year old!
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    im glad you think you can run away from critisism with your smart assed comments and sarcasm.

    and clean cut does work:
    u ever heard of whoswe or widegroup

    i dont see anybody queuing around the block for your style of web design. do u?

    so far the only way you have responded to me is by mocking my words. why dont you say something this time instead of just repeating something that i have just said.

    why dont u tell u what you where trying to achieve with your masterpiece of a web page
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    Originally posted by n-gen
    im glad you think you can run away from critisism with your smart assed comments and sarcasm.

    and clean cut does work:
    u ever heard of whoswe or widegroup

    i dont see anybody queuing around the block for your style of web design. do u?

    so far the only way you have responded to me is by mocking my words. why dont you say something this time instead of just repeating something that i have just said.

    why dont u tell u what you where trying to achieve with your masterpiece of a web page
    Trust me. I'm not running away from you, its just that I don't care to waste my time ***** footing around with you all day. I posted my site for intelligent and constructive criticism, not this foolish nonsense. This is the last time I'm going to respond to you. Please F off.
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    please F of. ok then. il let that slip. youve only posted 6 messages on the forum 4 of which have been aggression directed towards me.

    now u wanted constructive critism. here goes.

    - why dont u introduce a colour scheme to the site?
    - the background music does not fit with the site at all
    - that web cam shot of u at the home page is distracting and gets annoying after a while.
    - the font below the preloader is blury
    - some of the buttons on the site are a bit abstract and have no labels
    - and as we have been told by sense the patterns arnt even yours


    This is the last time I'm going to respond to you
    fair enought. if u dont want too thats fine. but that was my thoughts on the site anyway.
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    Grrrrrr!!!
    What a thread to stumble into my first time on Flashkit - meeoowwww!!

    Okay, sensible, constructive crit (on first glance):

    - Bad spacing and grid; poorly balanced layout generally (e.g, bottom margin is slightly taller than the top, but not by enough to look deliberate) suggest tweaking these.
    - Pixel patterns fight each other and don't compliment the 3d stuff in the main window... you need a theme, man; go for '3d techie' or trendy 'clean and bold' style, but not both at once.
    - Colours are all over the place. I can see where you're coming from with the blue, green and red; a Primary pallette can give you lots of scope, but the blues you use are different hues (rhyme not intended). I'd suggest using the same type of blue throughout, but darker and lighter variations (try to limit yourself to how many variations you use - 3's a good number). Do the same for the greens and the reds and the whole design will hold together much better.
    - The menu looks more like a mission statement or strapline with the comas in.

    At the moment, it doesn't do you justice. The work in your portfolio is good, but this site doesn't have the same polish. It looks a bit studenty.

    These are just my opinions, and suggestions. Take them or leave them, but don't bite my face off!!

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    i conceed aelius summed up my thoughts much, much better than i did.

    sorry for the initial rude response

    and aelius, spot on ( p.s. ur site is really nice)
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    sorry..but i have to say that ur BLUE FLOWERY background looks pretty BAD......
    it's just too....flowery....and gay...
    sorry!!!!

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    feedback

    Okay guys, thanks for all of your responses, sorry its taken me so long to respond but I've just moved cross country from Boston to San Francisco to start a new life. I appreciate all of the honest feedback, as a designer its hard to get that from friends and family who always say how great everything is. Although I can't say I'll be making any huge design changes based on the feedback given, its definitely given me something to think about and its good to be part of a community of talented designers.
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    Creativity is a process that we sometimes fail to understand. Whether its a vision that has evolved over time or stumbled upon through inspiration this process always ends up running its own course if you truly are creating.

    I find this design to be somewhat out of place for your target audience. It seems more focused on your personality more than your skillz. Developers are advancing at a rapid pace but for the most part i see a lot of sites that follow your same formula. Its very mono tone on the professional fromt. For expamle:

    'Hire Me' says to me that your desperate, your one person, your pushy etc...

    'About Me' says to me your one person, being the first link your focus might be yourself, When you click it the main focus physical not educational.

    'My Work' says to me that your one person, your confident(not a bad thing), once you get inside the work is good but its all disfunctional. I dont see anything that suggest you offered ind/company a service that could effect there bottom line.

    The music is somewhat dark... can be misleading. a suggestion of distrust.

    The overall theme is confusing... a suggestion there is a lack of organization.

    The copyright again suggest a singular presence. You credit yourself as an entity.. a suggestion you do not have a license to practice business in your state.

    The typography is good. i like the logic font and a good use of this throughout.

    Please take this as constructive critisism and blow it off if you disagree. Dont feed this thread negativity even tho some choose not to help in there sitechecks. Be professional!


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    The sitecheck has turned into a very disfuctional proccess. If people like n-gen would just post what they didnt like rather than just beat it down then we are actually doing something. n-gen no offense but this is not a debate but a offering to seek professional assistance. Its hard to gain when you are hear to cut down. grow up and start helping in sitechek!!!

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    hey, ya, look at your site and tell me whats wrong with it, EVERYTHING NEVER STOPS LOOPING!!! AHHHH, CONVULSIONS, AHHH!!

    also, i don't think this is the right forum to discuss ways to self promote...

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    lol

    lesson learned //
    way to get lota replies to your post - burn the people who commented on your site and start stalking and criticizing their sites
    fun...



    as for the site, I think it works fine, functions well. No glitch or any of those really annoying flash things that everyone does when one first starts using flash.
    In fact, it's got a unique style. But it is a style that I personally do not like, and I found some of the elements quite ugly. However, that's just my taste, I usually dig only one type of sites, so I am sure yours will appeal to some clients with a different taste. Just design your site for your target audience I guess.

    keep up the good work

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    If it were a competition between you, and the guy who created this topic: I would hire you.

    Why? Your presentation is clean, clear, and presice.

    I'm a big fan of your portfolio ;D

    zsiswick: That background pattern is just way too destracting to pay attention to your flash. I'm sorry.

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    needs more work less pattern, VOL BTN looks bad. that it i guess!
    you've asked for it don't be pissed

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    i'd like to see n-gen's portfolio

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