how to make crisp pixel fonts

**connect2nikhil** · 08-30-2003, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by mxkidz
His screenshots or thats what girls in pink dresses call them.

I did not see his screen shots as I'm behind my office proxy server and am allowed access to a few handfull of resource sites. I can't connect 2 other sites. Just a handfull of sites only.

**Dave Cameron** · 08-30-2003, 05:27 AM

When embedding fonts, is it sufficient to select the font as embedded just once (assuming you're embedding all chars) or do you have to select it as embedded for every piece of text?

**mxkidz** · 08-30-2003, 05:53 AM

Suppose you got two dynamic text fields one. You have you select both of them and select emmbed all characters.

**Dave Cameron** · 08-30-2003, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by mxkidz
Suppose you got two dynamic text fields one. You have you select both of them and select emmbed all characters.

Sorry if I'm being dense. If I've already embedded a full set for one field, then I create another with the same font, do I have to embed for that one too, or will the fact that the fomnt's already been embedded be sufficient for that field to use it?

Thanks,

**mxkidz** · 08-30-2003, 11:51 AM

Yes you have to embbed the 2nd one also.

**Dave Cameron** · 08-30-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by mxkidz
Yes you have to embbed the 2nd one also.

Jeez, that's kinda dumb.

So if I have two fields using e.g. Arial and embed one, the 1st will use the embedded font and the second the system font?

Doesn't make sense and makes for a lot of extra work. I have a client who has two fonts they use as their corporate standard, and they're not standard OS fonts. Does that mean I have to embed these for every block of text?

What happens to non-dynamic text using these fonts?

Thanks.

**bvgroote** · 08-31-2003, 04:35 AM

your correct, and it's not really much of a time waster if you catch my drift, two clicks is all it takes

**roger_onslow** · 09-02-2003, 06:30 AM

Crisper and Sharper fonts are fine. But how can we make the existing fonts looks crisper and sharper?

Like verdana and arial?
You can't unless you dont emmbed the font.

SWiSHmax (latest beta) has an option to make any existing font sharper (like the pixel fonts mentioned here). Flash MX 2004 looks like it will do that as well (although I understand Flash MX 2004 will only sharpen fonts for dynamic/input text with FP7 .. SWISHmax does it for FP4+). Worth asking about at the demo events coming up shortly.

Also look at PixFont .. this is a utility which will create a new sharper font for you (as a separate font) from an existing font. (see here: http://www.kgroup.ru/products.html .. although with SWISHmax and MX 2004 you may not need to do this anymore)

**mxkidz** · 09-03-2003, 02:25 AM

Could you give me the link to the site you read this?

**roger_onslow** · 09-03-2003, 02:45 AM

SWISHmax beta forum at swishzone.com has info about features
Macromedia site has info about new features of MX 2004
See the PixFont link mentioned for further info there.

**Frets** · 09-03-2003, 04:21 AM

Roger Onslow is the center of the swish universe.

(sincerely)

For the non swish users amongst us
Here's the forum
http://www.swishzone.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=20

**mxkidz** · 09-03-2003, 04:36 AM

Hes the creator of swish right?

**Frets** · 09-03-2003, 05:43 AM

Most of it.
He's the lead developer

**felicks** · 10-05-2003, 02:24 PM

Please note though that if you make the text dynamic then it cannot be on a masked layer or it will not appear.

bvgroote: what version of flash were you using for those screenies?

Felix.

**roger_onslow** · 10-06-2003, 06:13 PM

NOTE: Its not DYNAMIC text that won't mask .. its DEVICE FONT text. If you are using device font text, then you don't need an aliased (pixel) font anyway, because device font text IS aliased. If you use embedded fonts, then you can mask etc.

**bvgroote** · 10-07-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by felicks
Please note though that if you make the text dynamic then it cannot be on a masked layer or it will not appear.

bvgroote: what version of flash were you using for those screenies?

Felix.

mx

**knave_t** · 11-15-2003, 03:25 AM

I used the same method as said by
bvgroote and it didn't work all the time. Dunno whether it is bugged or what. Tried to change the position of x and y to whole numbers, but out of 4 text fields, only 1 is sharp. I ended up testing each text field point by point, e.g. X: **.2 Y:**.0 etc until I achieved sharpness.

btw, I'm using MX and tested with FF Harmony too.

**Frets** · 11-15-2003, 07:53 AM

Did your font pt size match correctly?
Did you stretch or skew the characters?
Did you align left?

Do you have it operating in a move scroll environment?
Standard distance move effects do not allow the font
to sit at exact integers as the text is placed/drawn
into each frame.

Also (not an mx 2004 user here) where is the anchor
point for the object. By defaut the anchor point should
always be upper left.

**mxkidz** · 11-15-2003, 08:20 AM

See that you didnt select bold and italic. also FFF Harmony will work only if the font size is set to "8".

**knave_t** · 11-15-2003, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Frets
Did your font pt size match correctly?
Yup. size 8.
Did you stretch or skew the characters?
Nope.
Did you align left?
Yup.

Do you have it operating in a move scroll environment?
Nope. Its just for a text label in the middle of the 'scene'.

Also (not an mx 2004 user here) where is the anchor
point for the object. By defaut the anchor point should
always be upper left.
Erm, I believe its in the middle. Cos I'm not in a symbol or anything, just the main scene. Anyway, atleast I've managed to move them to their sharpness. I even downloaded MX 2004 trial to test and its the same.

Btw, is it only me or does the FF Harmony font appears extra huge in Photoshop 7 on size 8 for you guys too? I had to scale to size 3 in order to be acceptable.

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