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    Avi file created in Vegas yields random pixels

    I downloaded the Demo of FlixPro and tried creating a Flash video using an AVI (AVI-DV, not uncompressed AVI) clip I had rendered in Sony's "Vegas". In FlixPro, I selected 300bps format, trying MX first and then "old version" Flash. (I do have the latest release of Flash -- MX 2004 -- on my system.)

    In the resulting SWF clips, the sound was fine but the video was all random pixels -- no picture.

    I then used a WMV version of the clip as my source, instead of the AVI version -- and that worked OK. But I don't really want to have to render to WMV and THEN to Flash, since the higher-quality AVI is supposed to work in FlixPro.

    I do have both QuickTime and Windows Media on my system, so by process of elimination I'm guessing that FlixPro doesn't support AVI files that were created in Vegas?

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    Hi.
    It should work. I have Vegas and haven't ever had a problem.
    It could be that the installation of Vegas has not placed the specific Vegas DV codec you are using in a place where Flix has access to it.
    When you double click on the Vegas DV file which player plays the file on your system?
    Can you zip up and post a very small sample of that file and I'll download it and check it out.
    jb

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    Thank you for responding.
    Here is a clip of about 2 tenths of a second. It's the video portion only; in order to get the filesize within the limit allowed for posting to this forum, I had to delete the sound.

    The format of the clip (as rendered by the Vegas NTSC DV template) is:

    Video: 29.97fps, 720x480, lower field first.

    When I double-click a Vegas-rendered .avi file on my system, it gets played by Windows Media Viewer.

    Thanks again.
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    Hi.
    That file encoded for me just fine.
    See:
    http://www.wildform.com/videos/TEST/AndyShort.htm
    Try reinstalling the complete "recommended" install mode of the free Quicktime player. You can get it at www.quicktime.com.
    Let me know if that solves your problem.

    jb

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    Interesting.
    I downloaded and (re)installed QuickTime, accepting the "recommended" setting.

    My results are the same as before... irrespective of whether I select an MX or an "old Flash" template in FlixPro, when I encode the clip the result is just dancing pixels against a grey background (though the audio is perfect).

    Also: I just now tried "play input" in FlixPro, and that shows up as random pixels, too -- even before any FlixPro encoding has happened.

    Then I tried using some clips that are "raw" from being imported from my camcorder (i.e., haven't been rendered through Vegas), and those work fine.

    The problem definitely seems to specific to avi clips rendered from Vegas, using the Vegas NTSC DV format.

    I had the same problem when I bought "AlamDV" special-effects software. It can't handled Vegas-NTSC-DV-rendered avi clips; to use it, I have to render from Vegas as avi "uncompressed" -- meaning, of course, that the clips are HUGE. I bought that package anyway because they said there's a new version coming very soon, which I'll get for free, and that the new version will be able to handle Vegas-rendered clips properly.

    Looks like the same problem, whatever it is, is happening with FlixPro. Makes it not useful to me, unless WildForm does the same as whatever AlamDV says they're doing, to be able to accept Vegas' NTSC-DV avi clips.

    Thanks much for your efforts, though!

    Ernie
    Last edited by ernietamminga; 01-23-2004 at 06:49 PM.

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    A couple of other things you could try:
    -uninstall and reinstall Flix Pro
    -reinstall the free Windows Media Player
    If you still want assistance with this you can contact technical support at www.wildform.com/support and they can help you troubleshoot.

    jb

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    Flix doesn't like the Vegas default codec

    I've had the same problem with Vegas and Flix. Flix definately doesn't like the Vegas default codec.

    I've tried a range of setting with Vegas and I still can't get Vegas files to run on Flix. My work-around is to bring the Vegas file into into either my Canopus Rex system or Premiere and resave using another codec. Annoying but it works.

    It is odd. Flix definately likes the Canopus codec, yet Vegas files that Canopus will read, still won't encode properly with Flix.

    Rick

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    Hi.
    Zip up and post a sample for me to download.
    I downloaded and encoded the previous sample without a problem.
    It may be something having to do with your particular system and configuration and whether Flix has access to the codec or not.
    I have Vegas installed and have not had a problem using their codecs with Flix.
    jb

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    Jonathan:
    How does one determine whether Flix has access to the encoder it needs?

    Flix fails for me only with Vegas-rendered files. If I aim Flix at an avi file created by WildformFX, for example, it works fine. Aim it at a Vegas-rendered avi file, and it fails.

    If it is an "access to the codec" problem, would these mixed results be consistent with that problem?

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    I'm looking into this.
    It often comes down to the configurations of different media software you have installed.
    If you have access to any other files that you can post, please do.
    jb

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    ernietamminga,
    What does it list in the Input Video Properties in the Video tab of Flix?
    What does it list in the Input Audio Properties in the Audio tab of Flix?
    jb

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    Hi.
    Here are two more things you can try:
    1. Download this version of the windows media player from here:
    www.wildform.com/videos/Test3/mplayer2.ZIP
    Unzip it and then play the .avi file in this version of the Windows Media Player.
    Then attempt to play the file in Flix.

    2. Download this software from here:
    www.wildform.com/videos/Test3/wmtools.zip
    Install it. Then attempt to play your avi file in Flix.

    Let me know if either of these solves the problem.

    jb

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    This is what I've found so far. I can't make any avi rendered in Vegas play in Flix unless I render the file uncompressed. (I tried a half dozen or so codecs.) I tried the Windows media player and tools you posted Johnathan with no change.

    I have had no problem with avis rendered on a Canopus Rex or in Premiere. I am running FlixPro 3.2 and Vegas 4e on a computer running Win200.

    I have uploade a clip. (As the upload limit on this site equates to roughly two frames worth of video even zipped I wonder how useful it would be.)

    Now I have to get back to work.

    Rick

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    Oopps

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    Hi.
    I had no problem viewing and encoding that file with Flix:
    http://www.wildform.com/videos/TEST/mtest.htm
    I'm not sure why you are having this problem. I'll look into it some more.
    jb

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