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    rookie

    there are some thintgs that i don't get...
    how does an proffesional flasher draw so good?
    it seams to me that flash is kinda poor in drawing tools... and i don't get more than some lousy lines and circles.. and i'm forced to use to many jpgs, which is not so good...
    i have made some sites till mnow, but i want to learn more...
    here they are
    www.dogville.go.ro
    www.bizartist.go.ro
    they are plugins for flash mx? some brushes? somethin?
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    a professional flasher doesnt have to draw good, he just has to know his actionscript very well, flash'es life line

    Just use a combination of photoshop, flash, and to make it more dynamic a language like PHP or maybe XML.

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    flash is nota good drawing tool. Try using freehand instead, wich is best supported by flash (both macromedia)

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    Re: rookie

    Originally posted by BizArtist
    there are some thintgs that i don't get...
    how does an proffesional flasher draw so good?
    it seams to me that flash is kinda poor in drawing tools... and i don't get more than some lousy lines and circles.. and i'm forced to use to many jpgs, which is not so good...
    i have made some sites till mnow, but i want to learn more...
    here they are
    www.dogville.go.ro
    www.bizartist.go.ro
    they are plugins for flash mx? some brushes? somethin?
    i know photoshop very well... you can try my sites
    www.dogville.go.ro www.bizartist.go.ro
    and i think i will try to combine it with freehand...
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    Originally posted by deamothul
    a professional flasher doesnt have to draw good, he just has to know his actionscript very well, flash'es life line

    Just use a combination of photoshop, flash, and to make it more dynamic a language like PHP or maybe XML.
    but what shoul io do?
    i think i wil never understand more than some actions with url, load movie, and stuff like that?
    i hafta do somethin...
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    i would get to know the drawing api a bit, then just buy a book as actionscript the definitive guide. That book explains things in non programmers terms and takes it one step at a time.

    There is soo much to learn, just experiment a bit and just dont wanna know everything at once. Take it piece by piece. study other peoples work. Dont worry too much about it, it will all come if you take your time to learn the thing you need.

    laterz

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    Originally posted by deamothul
    i would get to know the drawing api a bit, then just buy a book as actionscript the definitive guide. That book explains things in non programmers terms and takes it one step at a time.

    There is soo much to learn, just experiment a bit and just dont wanna know everything at once. Take it piece by piece. study other peoples work. Dont worry too much about it, it will all come if you take your time to learn the thing you need.

    laterz

    actually, here comes the thing
    i do not want(guess) to learn action script at the highest level...
    i only need to learn actions that will make me a flash programator who will be able to make good looking movies not very complicated.. as banners, pages with translucide stuff, and maby some 3d's...
    i don't intend to make flashes like real cartoons.. i find very hard to belive that i will do that...
    i have see bibles with action script.. but i think the best chance is to learn from somebody next to you, wich in my case is nobody
    so, i will give me the chance of better drawing in flash, and some extra actionscript...
    how does freeehand-flash work? facing drawing? you can export it without converting into an object?
    could you send me an example with a loading movie?
    i don't know where to put the movie.. i know the conditioning, but...
    if... else...
    what about a fullscreen opening window, action atribued at a frame?
    without javascript...
    did you saw my website?
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    Originally posted by BizArtist
    actually, here comes the thing
    i do not want(guess) to learn action script at the highest level...
    i only need to learn actions that will make me a flash programator who will be able to make good looking movies not very complicated.. as banners, pages with translucide stuff, and maby some 3d's...
    like i said take it one at a time and buy a book. Thats important.
    I cant draw so i dont use freehand, i only actionscipt and try to do a bit of photoshop.
    btw 3d is high level and making cartoons can probably be done without using much script. ( i never make cartoons)

    i saw your site, the first time i visited it it didnt take me to your page but it stayed on the first page with two pieces of text in a strange unreadable font. If i see such kinda things i almost immediately surf away.

    Anywayz, buy a book or do a tutorial on the subject you like.
    You dont have to know every piece of script. Like i said take it as it goes and try to learn what you need at first.

    laterz

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    Originally posted by deamothul
    like i said take it one at a time and buy a book. Thats important.
    I cant draw so i dont use freehand, i only actionscipt and try to do a bit of photoshop.
    btw 3d is high level and making cartoons can probably be done without using much script. ( i never make cartoons)

    i saw your site, the first time i visited it it didnt take me to your page but it stayed on the first page with two pieces of text in a strange unreadable font. If i see such kinda things i almost immediately surf away.

    Anywayz, buy a book or do a tutorial on the subject you like.
    You dont have to know every piece of script. Like i said take it as it goes and try to learn what you need at first.

    laterz
    got the pic...
    about photoshop... i think i'm prety good, but that doesn't help me too much in flash...
    the site is functioning. too bad you could't see it...
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    hiya, i just went back to your site, this time it did enter the site.
    I like your design and i see what your were trying to make.
    i dont like it that there is no real clear menu

    photoshop skills are essential if you want to make very good sites.
    Try to make a combination of it, im doing it reversed. im trying to understand photoshop better lately.
    think about it, when u make a very kewl interface in photoshop then you could try to export it to flash and try to animate the whole scene.possibilities are endless

    laterz

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    Originally posted by deamothul
    hiya, i just went back to your site, this time it did enter the site.
    I like your design and i see what your were trying to make.
    i dont like it that there is no real clear menu

    photoshop skills are essential if you want to make very good sites.
    Try to make a combination of it, im doing it reversed. im trying to understand photoshop better lately.
    think about it, when u make a very kewl interface in photoshop then you could try to export it to flash and try to animate the whole scene.possibilities are endless

    laterz
    how can i export it.. and combine the interfaces?
    because the only thing i do is to export and import it in flash as jpg, and that's not quite good for the backgrounds.. everything...
    if i export as gif, it's a very bad qualitty...
    still, i consider drawing the most importnant thing that i must learn... hope to hear more advices from u
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    when i try that kinda stuff then i import png files or jpg's.
    i play a bit around cause i dont want to increase my filesize bigtime and png will do that.
    You could slice up your images in photoshop and then import em into flash, convert them into movieclip and add code to do stuff you like.

    i think it boils down to just a bit of logic thinkin.
    use freehand if you consider drawing your main thing, not flash.
    then import the drawing back into flash.
    Im a coder so i just dont work that way


    laterz

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    i think you create a layout in photoshop, and then import it into flash.. but what animation could you make after you got some static drawings? this coding.. i know it's supernatural.. but
    please show me some of your work... a website
    i really want to learn flash very good!
    ps: what version do you use?
    i have a flash MX (2002)...
    are they plugins?brushes, stuff?
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    if you import a static drawing into flash you can convert it into a movieClip and then u can letGo some actionscript on it.
    if i want i can move the bits and pieces around cause they are all loose pieces and all converted into movieClips.


    btw i use flash mx 2004 when i cant use flash mx, but i still think the workflow in flash MX is millions times better than in 2004.
    so i often just use flash mx

    laetrz
    Last edited by deamothul; 02-06-2004 at 12:43 PM.

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    i found a little example, first i took a picture in photoshop.
    cutted it in parts and then loadEm into flash.
    i could use loadMovie to load em in dynamically, but in this version i just imported all the parts into flash.
    then i placed em into the right position, converted every imported jpg into a movieClip and then i let some actionscript loose on the picture.
    http://deamothul.video-animation.com...ace/index.html

    ltrz
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    that's very fine...
    you know, if i would have to do something simmillary to that.. i think i wouldn't know to make it with action script...
    anyhow.. please send me once, if you have the time and if you want to, a flash with a loading movie, because i don't know very well where to put tit, and... a movieclip with that kind of actions...
    thank you
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    Here's how those of us that draw good, do so.

    Kick back for 15 minutes and watch the master at work.... free drawing tutorial

    Just hope you can download a 12mb quicktime.

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    oops, wrong subject
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    Originally posted by BizArtist
    that's very fine...
    you know, if i would have to do something simmillary to that.. i think i wouldn't know to make it with action script...
    anyhow.. please send me once, if you have the time and if you want to, a flash with a loading movie, because i don't know very well where to put tit, and... a movieclip with that kind of actions...
    thank you
    sorry mate, i really havent got the time to do stuff next to the things im doing right now. Time is driving me crazy.
    i wish there were more hours in a day.

    laterz

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