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    Check out my website and help me please! thnx.

    what's up guys.
    im a big newbie to flash, and i really want to get the hang of it.

    So this is my situation, im a business management major currently, and i decided to attempt to start my own business. so i figured since i was also learning flash i could use a flash website for my company. well i knew there was no way in hell i could make it all on my own right now, so i bought a template flash site, or pre made whatever. and thast currently what i have right now. i even bought the online space and its under contsruction currently sitting on the web. "apexdesigner.com"

    anyway its a nice site and i learned alot from messing with it however it isnt completely a working site and i need help to make it completely well rounded and working.

    i would appreciate all the help i can get guys.
    check out the site and find the flaws and what u would suggest me to do about it, i know most things dont work.

    thanks for the help.
    later
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    that's some pretty serious flash on the site you bought...if you plan to keep it as is and just add some simple info, you'd probably be alright. it would take a lot of work without much knowledge of flash to do any more customizing to it than you've already done.
    it's all in the details
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    thanx for responding...

    yea i know i realize it is pretty complicated and detailed. all that i really want to do is create subpages for the buttons on the site, like fix the contact>submit button so they can contact me from the site, also i would like to make subpages for eevrything clickable on the site. for example, the enlarge buttons for the pictures. i would love it if i could make subpages that could hold several pictures of my work each, a gallery of sorts, but not really.

    so basically what im asking is help with the buttons on the site. i need to make buttons that would take them to a subpage and fix the unworking buttons alrdy on the site like the submit button on the contacts page....

    thanx.
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    Hi,
    Your flash site is very impressive - my only problem with it is the length of time it takes to load, definately not for dial-up users and even broadband users might get tired of waiting.
    As far as the buttons go - do a google search for 'flash button tutorial' theres plenty of info online to help you with those - and of course macromedia.com have some good tutorials too.

    good luck with it

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    i have some comments here...

    1th) I'm totaly ANTI-TEMPLATE guy... i hate tamplates and if i could then i would "burn" them all... templates are for idiots who aren't able to create something on their own ( no offence )...
    2nd) Never use Templates...

    anyway, your template is too big... i'm on dial-up and i just closed it after a few min...

    btw... you said that you want to start a business... well you "****ed it all up with this post"... because you came here with a template and you said some things about yourself that make you look like a TOATAL NOOB to web design ( if any potential customer sees this post, then he'll definitely never contact you )... yes, people can lear form templates, but in my opinion the free tutorial that you can find on the net are the best... ( don't waste money and time for stupid templates )


    Please delete this post and try again... next time please don't tell everyone that that's a template and that your || to web design...

    Regards...
    Last edited by wbwd; 02-01-2005 at 02:30 PM.

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    Originally posted by MyPrecious
    Hi,
    Your flash site is very impressive - my only problem with it is the length of time it takes to load, definately not for dial-up users and even broadband users might get tired of waiting.
    As far as the buttons go - do a google search for 'flash button tutorial' theres plenty of info online to help you with those - and of course macromedia.com have some good tutorials too.

    good luck with it
    lol, very impressive, his site ?! man, it's a template...

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    Originally posted by DMB Lover 41
    that's some pretty serious flash on the site you bought...if you plan to keep it as is and just add some simple info, you'd probably be alright. it would take a lot of work without much knowledge of flash to do any more customizing to it than you've already done.

    sorry for saing this man:

    what's so SERIOUS on that site ? the only thing that is interesting on that site is that middle annimation ( the rotating box )... the rest is all simple...

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    thanx for responding...

    thanx for responding everyone,

    i have a few respsonses for you though.
    im sure the viewers of this forum make up a total percentage of about less then 1%. im sure the market for advertising is much larger then the people this forum consists of. im not worried about making myself look cool to expert flash designers like yourself or anyone else, so i had no intention of lying.

    As far as buying a template...like i said im new to flash and im more experienced with business management and things in that area. so i was more interested in creating the business then wasting time creating the site.

    however like i mentioned before, im also trying to learn flash as best as i can.

    you must have mistakenly put me into a diff category.. you see..

    i am first a business man.

    and second a flash designer.

    but thanx for your concerns with my company.
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    thanx to everyone for their help.
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    wbwd, i meant pretty serious for anyone without any flash experience. the rotating box and blurs and such aren't the easiest thing to do. beyond that, there's a lot to be said (that most people don't get) about the rhythm of a site, how the animations work together and feel like organic motion. and looking professional on top of it.
    Last edited by DMB Lover 41; 02-01-2005 at 09:45 PM.
    it's all in the details
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    by the way guys....

    i recently figured out how to add subpages and such onto my site and i figured out how to access them with buttons and script needed to do so.

    the next thing i want to mess with (in the distant future of course) is data bases on websites, and hwo they work. what they consist of and what is possible with them, so if anyone is an experienced webmaster or web designer and you have some patience id enjoy a lesson.

    thanx.
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    wbwd - I'm pretty sure that your comments are considered flaming -
    *Flaming is attacking or abusing another member - we like to keep it friendly here!
    - feel free to read this thoroughly:
    http://www.flashkit.com/board/showth...hreadid=599675

    b4tm4nb0mb - Your site takes a lot to load (I'm on dialUp) - sorry, but I couldn't wait that long.
    Still, I suggest going through these sites, they have a lot of tutes & articles on the subject (& have their own search engines), so you can find what you need in no time.
    And off course, use other FlashKit forums to post your questions.

    http://www.htmlgoodies.com/
    http://www.communitymx.com/
    http://www.w3.org/
    http://www.actionscripts.org/

    (edit): btw, \\/42z uph \\/1Ł u$1|\|9 l33t? <- aah, that felt 900d
    Last edited by chero; 02-02-2005 at 04:37 AM.

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    hahahaha,
    read this thoroughly before you pull a stunt like that again
    stunt like that again, that is too funny.

    damn, im with yaboy wbwd, templates are just plain sad. who is selling their soul to actually create these things??
    but i guess since dude is a "business man," it's somewhat less heterophobic.


    now, to be constructive:
    i'm on a very fast connection, and theres no way in hell i would wait this long for a site to load unless i was assured of good free pr0n.
    other than that, its pretty fresh.

    plus, its probably a good way to learn the program.

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    i must be mistaken myself.

    i dunno what kind of site this is,
    but i assumed it was a professional site for people who needed help with anythign flash , template or not??

    why is the origin of my project so important to you people?
    i was unaware of the comments i was going to recieve from the "professional class members".

    i tryed to be nice earlier,
    but please keep your immature opinions about templates, webdesign, or anythign in general for that matter out of this forum.

    because im simply not interested in your personal morals or opinions on my character.

    i seek help with correcting and improving MY flash website.
    thanx.

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    welcome

    chill. read.
    you are in the Site Check forum.
    we are here to evaluate your site and give you feedback about what you are doing. in this evaluation, you are being told that templates are wack and that your site takes too long to load. if you can't take criticism, then don't ask for people's opinion.

    if you want help with actually constructing your site and learning about flash, go to one of the forums where you can ask a specific question about your site. hell, i'll probably answer a question for you.

    safe,
    JL

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    i supose your right....

    from this point on ill only respond to people i think fit my interest.


    good day.
    thanx bye.

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    chill peeps, there is no need to dump on someone because you don't like templates...some Flash designer made them...makes them worthy of a site check.

    Feel free to critique the site, but to attack someone (however mildly) because they use a template is pushing the envelope enough to get me in here to post.

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    Originally posted by Juan Love

    stunt like that again, that is too funny.
    +h3r3 sux0r, 1 +00k 1+ 0u+
    hell, i'll probably answer a question for you.
    Now THAT's funny.

    My point is that people come here to learn something. And the impression given in this thread is that flashDesigners are a bunch of pretentious holierThanThou quasiArtists.
    If you wanna talk trash, go to the coffee lounge, start an anti-template thread.

    (edit): And that site does take too long to load - so I'd shave off whatever I can, unless you want only broadBanders to see it.
    Last edited by chero; 02-02-2005 at 06:39 AM.

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    ok i've got an idea..

    so i did some research..

    and i realize the methods of making your flash a smaller file would be to make more objects symbols and stuff like that...

    however, the main problem is like i stated before, i just put this site up and everything is still default(the pictures, most of the wording, etc) which means i have to ADD MORE to my site including the sub pages in the works.

    it brought me to the conclusion that im going to need to add a first page which gives the viewer an option of going to the html site or the flash site. or highbandwith or low bandwith.

    ive seen this done before.

    i wonder if it would really drastically reduce the viewing for the html viewers? quality-wise and loading time?

    if a starting page opens with the option of viewing it in highbandwith and lowbandwith then maybe it would increase the viewers interest of viewing it at least once. and then every other time after that he could access the site and skip intro etc.

    basically my question is how difficult would this be? does anyone have any experience in doing this? and loading the files unto the server for correct viewing order and such?
    im pretty sure i could easily make the html site.

    thanx for your input guys.
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    You don't need to make html, You can make the linked pages - all the things that load - external. Make separate swf's out of them & load them into your site.
    If you don't know what I'm talking about follow these to get the idea:

    http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/full_site.htm
    http://www.kirupa.com/developer/mx/p...transition.htm
    http://www.kirupa.com/web/xml/examples/portfolio.htm

    Before you start:

    Since this is a bit of inTheWrongDirection process (normally you'd get to know your site by building it) - familiarize yourself with all the actions/symbols/events/sounds

    If you get stuck post in one of the help forums, there's always someone with the solution there.

    (edit): Definitely make a splash page with the essential info - your logo, dimensions, flash version etc.
    Last edited by chero; 02-02-2005 at 06:18 PM.

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    Splash page? errrr...according to google, most splash pages get 'X'ed. People never even see the site. I usually don't go beyond them either. However, I think if there is a need such as options like choosing a language or veiwing modes, folks are more receptive. In your case I'ld say get one only because your site does take a long time to load and a warning would be nice.

    As for the template deal, they are out there for a reason you guys. Not everyone wants to be a webmaster nor do they wanna pay thousands for someone to build them a site. So, come on, what about the site? That was the question.

    I like it, it's cool, As for your linkage...write the people you got the template from and ask them if you can add a flash splash, (fast loading due to less content). If not, make your html site and make the second page "Home" and the real home page a splash with the options on it. Or just make the html site with a button that says, 'Flash Version'.
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