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I give up. It's too hard for me to even begin to understand a society that turned eunich's into a fashion statement. There should be no surprises over what they could do to a religion.
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I'm the good one!
Oh..oh...the wild monkey scenes are on again...
Copies of Koran found lying in a drain in Pakistan I was suprised to read that they had drains...
iTony
Last edited by XU1; 02-09-2006 at 01:52 AM.
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supervillain
Today one of the protestors dressed in suicide bomber gear apologised on live british tv...
Today the imitation suicide bomber, Omar Khayam, said apologised "wholeheartedly" for offending families of the July 7 bombing victims.
He told reporters outside his Bedford home he found the cartoons "deeply offensive". But by wearing a fake explosive belt, he did "exactly the same as the Danish newspaper, if not worse".
Accompanied by he's chairman of his local mosque and Bedford MP Patrick Hall, he said: "Just because we have the right of free speech and a free media, it does not mean we may say and do as we please and not take into account the effect it will have on others."
linky
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Retired SCORM Guru
 Originally Posted by gerbick
What an *******. Has he ever heard of just asking for an apology?
"What really bugs me is that my mom had the audacity to call Flash Kit a bunch of 'inept jack-asses'." - sk8Krog
...and now I have tape all over my face.
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New Wave
I was browsing around www.islamonline.net and reading some of the forum posts and their coverage. I saw some interesting quotes from people.
Many Westerners saw what happened as freedom of expression; on the other side we, Muslims, acknowledge freedom of speech but, not that way of impoliteness and degrading others.
The newspapers are using freedom of speech as a disguise to insult and hurt Muslims. Freedom of speech should have some basic limitations..... dont hurt or insult others. Is that too much to ask of such a "CIVILIZED" European world?
See, they don't understand the concept of free speech AT ALL.
Yes, it IS too much to ask, how people expect to have free speech without "impoliteness"? Say goodbye to Comedy Central, or comedy in general.
Are we supposed to create new laws where politicians decide what is or isn't impolite? That basically amounts to the government dictating what we say. Let me guess the first thing the government would outlaw...criticism of the government. Sounds like Fascism to me.
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curmudgeon
 Originally Posted by Visionray
I was browsing around www.islamonline.net and reading some of the forum posts and their coverage. I saw some interesting quotes from people.
See, they don't understand the concept of free speech AT ALL.
Yes, it IS too much to ask, how people expect to have free speech without "impoliteness"? Say goodbye to Comedy Central, or comedy in general.
Are we supposed to create new laws where politicians decide what is or isn't impolite? That basically amounts to the government dictating what we say. Let me guess the first thing the government would outlaw...criticism of the government. Sounds like Fascism to me.
They have a point. The "free" press is continually used for hidden agendas by governments and people with money and influence.
Last edited by swampy; 02-09-2006 at 03:40 AM.
"They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."
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I'm the good one!
 Originally Posted by Visionray
See, they don't understand the concept of free speech AT ALL.
Not in the context of " it's offensive but can still be printed" sense.
But they don't seem to have a problem publishing, preaching, printing, showing, advertising, propagating, indoctrinating, chanting etc, the most vile things for people who are of Jewish descent.
iTony
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Mundu
 Originally Posted by Visionray
I was browsing around www.islamonline.net and reading some of the forum posts and their coverage. I saw some interesting quotes from people.
See, they don't understand the concept of free speech AT ALL.
Yes, it IS too much to ask, how people expect to have free speech without "impoliteness"? Say goodbye to Comedy Central, or comedy in general.
Are we supposed to create new laws where politicians decide what is or isn't impolite? That basically amounts to the government dictating what we say. Let me guess the first thing the government would outlaw...criticism of the government. Sounds like Fascism to me.
I don't understand how i should be saying this to you.
but consider.. you are deeply in love with some girl and would be willing to die for her. and someone makes a fake nude pic of that girl..and it goes all over the place and everyone knows her as 'that whore from the pic'.
it isn't a really good thing atleast for the muslims...
we love our prophet more than anything else.. he is not something we would like to see/ hear comdey off. you guys pull it off as comdey since he means nothing to you.
i hope i made my point clear. well... actually it wasn't the right example of saying your girl is a whore.. but i hope you get what i mean.
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associate
 Originally Posted by emm_eye
but consider.. you are deeply in love with some girl and would be willing to die for her. and someone makes a fake nude pic of that girl..and it goes all over the place and everyone knows her as 'that whore from the pic'.
I would set fire to his home.
/sarcasm
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Chaos
 Originally Posted by emm_eye
I don't understand how i should be saying this to you.
but consider.. you are deeply in love with some girl and would be willing to die for her. and someone makes a fake nude pic of that girl..and it goes all over the place and everyone knows her as 'that whore from the pic'.
it isn't a really good thing atleast for the muslims...
we love our prophet more than anything else.. he is not something we would like to see/ hear comdey off. you guys pull it off as comdey since he means nothing to you.
i hope i made my point clear. well... actually it wasn't the right example of saying your girl is a whore.. but i hope you get what i mean.
jesus, moses, allah, and mohammed walk into a bar. the bartender asks what they want to drink, and jesus goes "id really love some water" muhammad is all like jesus your such a *****, and then moses had to seperate them.
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New Wave
 Originally Posted by emm_eye
I don't understand how i should be saying this to you.
but consider.. you are deeply in love with some girl and would be willing to die for her. and someone makes a fake nude pic of that girl..and it goes all over the place and everyone knows her as 'that whore from the pic'.
it isn't a really good thing atleast for the muslims...
we love our prophet more than anything else.. he is not something we would like to see/ hear comdey off. you guys pull it off as comdey since he means nothing to you.
i hope i made my point clear. well... actually it wasn't the right example of saying your girl is a whore.. but i hope you get what i mean.
I see your point that you were offended, but I don't see your point beyond that. Are you suggesting as well that the western world create a new set of laws surrounding free speech?
What I'm trying to say, and what I've said before, is that it will not happen.
Think of why the French, Germans, Italians reprinted the cartoons in the first place. It goes back to what Geezer said...you tell someone they can't have free speech and they will only go to the extreme to show you that they have the right.
Last edited by Visionray; 02-09-2006 at 04:44 PM.
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I'm the good one!
 Originally Posted by Visionray
Are you suggesting as well that the western world create a new set of laws surrounding free speech?
That is what they want they want, a law that stops people offending "Them".
The asnwer to this problem is very simple....."Grow Up" and stop behaving like wild monkeys every time some one says something about your religion.
iTony
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Mundu
 Originally Posted by Visionray
I see your point that you were offended, but I don't see your point beyond that. Are you suggesting as well that the western world create a new set of laws surrounding free speech?
What I'm trying to say, and what I've said before, is that it will not happen.
Think of why the French, Germans, Italians reprinted the cartoons in the first place. It goes back to what Geezer said...you tell someone they can't have free speech and they will only go to the extreme to show you that they have the right.
well.. the point is every muslim is offended by this. and which is why.. this has been getting a lot of media hype..
i and most muslims naturally condemn the attacks on the embassies and the other violent attrocities.. a few people do pull things to the extreme.. which is why cartoons like this get published in the first place..
however, it is the way the west is thinking of islam(because of this small group of people who again are given all the media hype in the west as the image of islam). that is wrong.
making cartoons of any human is prohibited in islam as is said here by a few members... but that isn't forced on non-muslims..
But when you make a cartoon that is offensive and creates a wrong image of islam... especially during a time when islam is not in the good books of most non-muslims in the west.. it is really disturbing for us..
@swampy.. god always comes first.. i was only speaking in context to the subject..
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curmudgeon
 Originally Posted by emm_eye
we love our prophet more than anything else..
then you aren't a very good muslim. God comes first.
"They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."
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curmudgeon
 Originally Posted by gerbick
He was lucky he had someone media savvy enough to make up a reason for him. He was unlucky that he broke the terms of his licence and is now back in jail for a drug dealing sentence he was on parole for.
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Danish websites hacked
Last edited by swampy; 02-09-2006 at 03:49 AM.
"They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."
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Phantom Flasher...
 Originally Posted by gerbick
That polite young protester is now headded back to jail for dealing cocaine...
Its extremists and weirdos that cause problems...
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Banned
 Originally Posted by Markp.com
Its extremists and weirdos that cause problems...
I think this is a little unfair to wierdos. Society has benefited quite a bit from wierdos here and there.
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Phantom Flasher...
 Originally Posted by indivision
I think this is a little unfair to wierdos. Society has benefited quite a bit from wierdos here and there.
Hahahahaha... like?
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Banned
 Originally Posted by Markp.com
Hahahahaha... like?

enough said.
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tunnel vision
Appears clear that Iran and Syria jumped on this opportunity and are using this as leverage to their mind priniting campaigns.
imams living in Europe apparently met with religious leaders and
carried three extra caricatures of Muhammad that were far more inflammatory than the original 12.... [they] had added them to their dossier to demonstrate the kind of attitudes that Muslims were facing in Denmark.
these poeple just thrive on this.
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