I'm Norwegian and I have nothing against Islam

[XU1]

and I've seen Dr. Stranglove 15 times..

ROFLMAO...you sick man you..

iTony

[Ask The Geezer]

My dear friend..then I'd have to say you dont have any dignity and self respect..you can let anyone insult your identity or your mom?

You'll never understand western humor, so don't bother trying.

And WTF are muslims doing reading Danish funnypapers?

[owace]

You'll never understand western humor, so don't bother trying.

And WTF are muslims doing reading Danish funnypapers?

Listen bro..you don't have to be mean here...accept the fact...freedom of speech doesnt mean you cross limits...I believe you dont know sh** about respect..and I believe you were raised disrespecting others...anyway dont worry and chill out...Muslims are going to take your lands soon.. haha...

[gerbick]

Listen bro..you don't have to be mean here...accept the fact...freedom of speech doesnt mean you cross limits...I believe you dont know sh** about respect..and I believe you were raised disrespecting others...anyway dont worry and chill out...Muslims are going to take your lands soon.. haha...

Sounds too much like Chicken Little... "the muslims are coming, the muslims are coming..."

Dude, chill out yourself. If they take over the US, so what? Separation of church and state is the American way. Enough rednecks don't like it, you better believe there's gonna be a mass of 1st Amendment believers the likes of any colonial re-enactment could never fathom. Maybe that's in retaliation of anything going on as you've stated it.

Anyway, who cares? There isn't a fight over religion. Just some over zealous fanatics that have way too much pull.

[Ask The Geezer]

Muslims are going to take your lands soon..

When would that be? They can't even keep the ones they got. And I'm not being mean, just giving you a glipmse of what's to come if you push it too far.

Are you some kind of nutjob? Last I heard the total nuclear weapons in muslim hands was like 6, if you count Pakistan as being muslim. The US has 10,000, and parts to make 13,000 more. We also have the best, most accurate missiles to launch them. I say bring it on. You want a fight? I'm sure if the middle eastern nations push hard enough, they'll get one.

[Visionray]

What I don't get is what exactly do the protestors want? They want apologies from Denmark's government? I can see why they have a hard time grasping the concept of a free press, but the way they are acting totally reinforces the negative images in the cartoons. And it's not just "a few" muslims involved in this whole fiasco, thousands of protestors in several countries have joined the parade. And no, it's not ALL muslims either, but it's funny how you don't see this much outrage and protest by peace loving muslims against these radicals who perpetuate the stereotype of Islam as a violent religion.





Oh please.

[Jujumon]

send the neo nazis there and let 'em behead eachother

[el-Ignoramus]

So Freedom of speech = Crossing the lines?

well if you want the rest of the world to "Enjoy" your system of beliefs, well you have to taste their own beliefs as well, so yeah I say anyone mocking my God. Prophet and religion to get higher ratings in something that would have been used as toilet paper otherwise deserves to be threatened by death, and if he/she/they gets killed, well we're only taking a leaf from your zionist book anyways, you guys "and the usual lot of course, let's not forget anyone here" are the leaders of persecuting anyone who doesn't have your beliefs, sympathize with your lies, and act accordingly as well, you even managed to push the US -like it's a big deal to move a puppet around- to push the Anti-Semitism law Pffft, give me a break before you talk about double standards

P.S. my reply is not for someone in specific, since reading four pages kinda takes it of you to reply to each person, I'm just giving a general reply to the talking heads, and wishing only for the decent ones to reply, which won't leave much to do it anyway.

[Visionray]

well if you want the rest of the world to "Enjoy" your system of beliefs, well you have to taste their own beliefs as well, so yeah I say anyone mocking my God. Prophet and religion to get higher ratings in something that would have been used as toilet paper otherwise deserves to be threatened by death, and if he/she/they gets killed, well we're only taking a leaf from your zionist book anyways

"You're free to do what you want provided you don't hurt others" that was a proverb we were raised on here in Egypt and middle east

Sounds like you really follow that proverb well.

[el-Ignoramus]

Sounds like you really follow that proverb well.

Only you guys want Freedom to be a one way lane, with said freedom comes responsibility, something those caricature artist never heard of obviously, and an attempt to deface one of the largest religions on earth just to get your five minutes of fame, well I wish them luck dealing with the consequences, after all, we're only practicing our freedom as well


and I recall now someone doing the math of how few nuclear weapons Arab countries hold, all you need is Two actually

[flipshark]

Only you guys want Freedom to be a one way lane, with said freedom comes responsibility, something those caricature artist never heard of obviously, and an attempt to deface one of the largest religions on earth just to get your five minutes of fame, well I wish them luck dealing with the consequences, after all, we're only practicing our freedom as well


and I recall now someone doing the math of how few nuclear weapons Arab countries hold, all you need is Two actually

el_Ig, this is exactly what my last post is referring to. There is no "freedom to kill people who offend you", there is no "freedom to kill people who insult your religious beliefs".

And you are not talking about one way lanes. You are talking about separate highways on the opposite side of the country. Killing someone is not the same as insulting someone..

This would be a ONE-SIDED/ONE-WAY-LANE, if a small group of people were making fun of Islam, and not one small Islamic group was making fun of any other religion.

You have to know this is not the case. ****, I can't walk through the halls of my university in december without having the Muslims Student Association hand me a flyer saying the "Holy Virgin Mary" was a sl*ut who got pregnant by Joseph and had to leave town and that the "immaculate conception" is a MYTH.

Isn't that on the same "lane" as drawing a picture of the Islamic prophet? Isn't calling the mother of the christian prophet a slut, and the christian messiah a joke on the same lane?

Now honestly, honestly, in your honest opinion, what would the muslim response be if one of the christians read this flyer, and went and burnt down the muslim students association?, honestly what would the muslim world say to a christian seeing the flyer and burning down the muslim prayer room in our school?, what would the muslim response be to burning of flags and muslim sacred symbols?

Do you honestly believe the muslims would sit back and say, well gee, we (muslims) exercised our right to free speech... and they (christians) exercised their right to burn down our prayer rooms, mosques, etc,. Guess now we are even steven.

[XU1]

well I wish them luck dealing with the consequences, after all, we're only practicing our freedom as well

And you say you are a moderate Muslim? practising your freedom for what?

To behead and kill people for a silly incident like this? You should be ashamed of yourself.

and I recall now someone doing the math of how few nuclear weapons Arab countries hold, all you need is Two actually

And that would be two too many, and no doubt with the current rational Muslim mindset as we have seen lately, some "martyr" from your peaceful religion may just decide to take the risk for a greater cause...

Dude, that would be suicidal stupidity....what a surprise.

iTony

[gerbick]

Only you guys want Freedom to be a one way lane, with said freedom comes responsibility, something those caricature artist never heard of obviously, and an attempt to deface one of the largest religions on earth just to get your five minutes of fame, well I wish them luck dealing with the consequences, after all, we're only practicing our freedom as well

So, you're saying that this response is the "equal" of what's going on... a cartoon done in bad taste, burn an embassy, flags, effigy. Two way lane?

Seriously, what would be the resolution to this? I'd love to hear this.

[PAlexC]

Only you guys want Freedom to be a one way lane, with said freedom comes responsibility, something those caricature artist never heard of obviously, and an attempt to deface one of the largest religions on earth just to get your five minutes of fame, well I wish them luck dealing with the consequences, after all, we're only practicing our freedom as well

I really expected better from you man.

Having freedom of speech, or any personal freedom at all means taking the good with the bad. Hence we still have idiots like the klan running around in the States.

Just as the cartoon falls under freedom of expression and is being criticized, so is the reaction to it.

I can't say threatening violence should be protected or deemed reasonable in a case like this. I don't undertand what that kind of threat is supposed to accomplish. It doesn't foster respect, understanding or reconciliation. It seems designed only to create more suffering.

[Jujumon]

el, i just want to know ur opinion.

do u think ur avatar crossed the line? and how would u response to the royal fanatics who threatening u

[el-Ignoramus]

el, i just want to know ur opinion.

do u think ur avatar crossed the line? and how would u response to the royal fanatics who threatening u

a big flaw in your reasoning here, what I have in my Avatar, Already Happened, and you should see what the UK papers publish making fun of their own royal family, although I remember an incident where the Queen ordered boycotting a certain artist who made a painting that was "Distasteful" showing the royal family a few years ago

what's your point??

did I make up this picture to make fun of the british royal family, Nop, do I think it's funny, Yep, do I care what others think of it, Yep, and if enough people said it was offending to their beliefs and religious sacred icons, I would most definitely remove it, "Anta Horr, Malam Tadorr" = "You're free to do what you want provided you don't hurt others" that was a proverb we were raised on here in Egypt and middle east

I'm out for now, got me a car to repair, and I think I made my stand clear, perhaps I'll peep in again if I find somethign worthy of replying to

[gerbick]

bah, it's all in bad taste. this thread, the incident, the name calling.

this thread... less personal attacks, more discussion. leave people mother's out of it.

the incident... there's a thing of freedom of speech that goes both ways. the comic was in bad taste. the response, bad taste. can't take a joke, don't give any. burning effigy's and flags is just as tasteless as that comic was. even if they were to retract the comic, make statements, what now? can the retractions be made from the other side too? can't put the ashes back together as a whole.

my point? the reaction wasn't the same. I've seen jokes about other religious figures and I don't recall myself taking the stance to burn all involved in effigy.

the name calling in this thread. unacceptable. either this will be closed, deleted, and if you continue, your membership taken. no need to be going all hoo-hah on each other for no good reasons.

[Jujumon]

"what's your point??"

no point, i just like to read what other ppl in this world think on different issue. its just me


"You're free to do what you want provided you don't hurt others" thats what i live by also

[Ask The Geezer]

that was a proverb we were raised on here in Egypt and middle east

Our proverb here in the west is, "****'em if they can't take a joke."

Damn, El-Ig, all this time I thought that was you picking your nose in your avatar. Now I see it's the queen. ROFLMAO.

[el-Ignoramus]

Our proverb here in the west is, "****'em if they can't take a joke."

Damn, El-Ig, all this time I thought that was you picking your nose in your avatar. Now I see it's the queen. ROFLMAO.

well Geezer, you don't want to **** with sand people, after all, it can get rough and sandy , still some people would give us the freedom of speech, freedom of act, and freedom of seeing the best method or retaliation we see fit, don't you like "freedom"

and I have you to know sir, the queen is my role model when it comes to nose picking in public