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Banned
Ghosts??
I had seen plenty of fake videos in the internet but only a few has made goose bumps, and this one is one of them(already posted, check #900).
Now does it really exist?? I had never believed in it but sometimes it makes me think - why not ??? and i guess everyone believes in the fact that everything in this world is made of good and bad things. So if god exists then why not ghosts(or may be viceversa)
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Grandfather to the stars
Originally Posted by deepakflash
Now does it really exist??
No. There are no ghosts. There is no god. You live, you die. Enjoy it.
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Senior Member
That film doesn't seem very credible. I don't know what I think about ghosts... Alot of people claim to have seen them, but alot of people also claim to know where Elvis lives...
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Juvenile Delinquent
Originally Posted by bigginge
There are no ghosts. There is no god.
You state that as if it's a known fact. Perhaps you have some evidence that you'd like to share with the rest of the human race?
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Grandfather to the stars
I accept I was somewhat dogmatic, I just didn't want deepak to spend his life looking at blurry youtube videos in the mistaken belief it proves the hereafter.
Obviously it's difficult to prove a negative, but after centuries of scientific and psychic research (see James Randi et al) there is not one iota of proof for ghosts. Life's too short to debate the existence of god here, though I'm sure it's been done before, but having spent a part of my early life looking at different belief systems I've come to the conclusion it's all doodly squit.
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Chaos
Originally Posted by CVO Chris
You state that as if it's a known fact. Perhaps you have some evidence that you'd like to share with the rest of the human race?
if there is a god he is a twisted sick freak suffering from Munchausen's syndrome. Causing so much pain so that people will goto him. Thats not any kinda of god i can represent.
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Juvenile Delinquent
If you are nice to people then ofcourse people will love you. It's when things don't go your way and questions are raised that real loyalty and devotion is tested.
I don't claim to have all the answers and I will not pretend that I can prove God's existance. Such endeavours are futile.
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Wait- what now?
The things the bible teach us are all good ways to live (except the murder etc) but it is a known fact that the bible we live by now has been edited and even completely rewritten, the gospels weren't even made by the deciples but written a few generations later from the stories people had heard.
Also, and I mean no offense, you have to be incredibly delusional or ignorant to believe in God existence. I was talking to this guy on a chatroom on this game portal before and he agreed the big bang has much more evidence, but yet he believed for some reason god created the big bang?
Well why? Why add that random thing in when you agree the big bang theory works and yet you decide to add some magical being into the equation aswell!
Either way some teachings of the bible are good but if your such good people you shouldn't need the motivation of heaven and hell to do them. Alot of people start believing when they lose someone close to them because (as i've said before) the prospect of their bodies just in a rotting coffin isnt very appealing.
I don't care in the end though, as long as it aint forced upon me or other people around me like this rutarded group called logos somthing who came here from bible munching America to make the UK share their god craze. On the other hand I don't think these You-cant-believe-coz-i-say-so atheists are that much better either.
Sorry for the stereotypes aswell, there's obviously exceptions to every rule.
As for ghosts, I want to believe there is such a thing and I like going ghost hunting in spooky places around Cornwall with my mates but I don't actually know if there is somthing else :S
p.s I love the banana is the atheists worse nightmare thing! "Its god some ridges so it fits into the palm of your hand! And look, it has a tab on the top which lets you peel it open easily!"
They obviously didnt know that our bananas today are nothing like the old ones.
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"I'd only told them the truth. Was that so selfish? Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us, but within that inch, we are free."
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supervillain
Call me crazy, but I've gone on record more than once with that I believe in ghosts. It's nothing that I could prove, you don't have to believe me at all.
I believe. And that's good enough for me.
But that video doesn't make me believe it. Too easy to fake given today's tech. Hell, none of my friends trust most pictures I send them now due to how many edits they've seen me do in Photoshop. It's getting to the point now that I have to bring up physical evidence of some things... guess I should have never shown my Photoshop prowess.
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Didn't do it.
Originally Posted by gerbick
It's getting to the point now that I have to bring up physical evidence of some things... guess I should have never shown my Photoshop prowess.
Hush child. japangreg can do what he wants. - PAlexC
That was Zen - this is Tao.
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supervillain
puwhahahaha. I'm sharing that.
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Senior Member
Even if ghost aren't real- it's more fun to think they are.
Party Poopers.
"Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous."- T. McKenna
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Banned
guys, i have no belief in ghosts, but i would never say no to someone who offers me a ride all the way to a ghostHouse, and thats just because i would be too curious and excited to go and take a look who is this Mr.Ghost and how does he behave. Now let me share something.
I have a friend who was born in a village and brought up here in the city and his grandmom was burried few years back in this village. He goes to his village atleast twice every year. I go and meet him every week and we have so much in common except this ghost belief. He is a strong believer in the supernatural and he always has a proof that itself has a story behind. He told me once that he had been to his village and it was past midnight when he goes out of his room and sits outside just looking at the trees in the dark under the moonlight. And since he doesn't wanted to sleep, he just walked a few distance towards a Well(in villages everyone does have a well) to get a better hit of the breeze, he saw an old lady with white hair let loose sitting by the side of the well and combing her hair with her bare hands(she did not have legs or may be it was not too clear to be noticed). He stood there frozen and made no noise. His mind shouted at him to run back but his legs were grounded like a pillar. The woman turned and looked at him(she did not have a glowing eyes like that in the video), he watched her a few moments absolutely shocked and then went back straight to his bed, never even turned back once. I had asked him about her looks, he just said it was his grandmother and her face was not too clear in the dark.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by silverx2
if there is a god he is a twisted sick freak suffering from Munchausen's syndrome. Causing so much pain so that people will goto him. Thats not any kinda of god i can represent.
No. If he/she had Munchhausen's, he/she would feign illness to get people's attention. Not cause pain so that they would come to him (just had to correct).
Anyway: Discussing the existance of God will never lead us to any conclusion. When it comes to religion, it's quite hard to prove things. I guess that's why it's called to "believe in God".
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Banned
Originally Posted by MagnusVS
When it comes to religion, it's quite hard to prove things. I guess that's why it's called to "believe in God".
I guess a person who doesn't have selfbelief always try to support the existance of god, and thats because he/she has a very vague belief that there might be someone who can help us, and for that all we need to do is just have a blind faith in the existance of this supernatural being(which can never shout back at us, speak, listen, help or whatever). You can always pour your tears to this so called "god" and you will never get a reply except a belief that your pain is heard and you wil get an answer soon. And there are people who work really hard all throughout the life and finally achieve something, and then suddenly say - it was all because of god that i achieved this. Why does he/she hesitate to admit its because of his/her own hard work?
And whats the point in having belief in both God and hardwork at the same time? Its practically impossible for someone to sit idle and get a great job or whatever just by having faith in god.
If there is something called God, it is WE Humans, because only a human being can bring happiness in the life of another humanbeing, and never god. And may be the one who does that can be called a God, a good example for that is Mother Teresa.
Last edited by deepakflash; 01-15-2008 at 03:30 PM.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by deepakflash
If there is something called God, it is WE Humans, because only a human being can bring happiness in the life of another humanbeing, and never god. And may be the one who does that can be called a God, a good example for that is Mother Teresa.
Wow. You've seen too many movies man. This just confirms my point. You claim that God does not exists. Still, you can't prove that theory. Just as it is hard for the millions of people seing and feeling a contact with supernatural forces (that may be God, Allah, Buddha other spirits etc.) to prove that what they are "communicating" with, exists.
So, in my opinion, people who are just rejecting the existance of any God doesn't seem very intellectual. Sure, you can say that you don't believe in anything, but you don't have the evidence to claim as a fact that God doesn't exists.
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Didn't do it.
Originally Posted by deepakflash
Its practically impossible for someone to sit idle and get a great job or whatever just by having faith in god.
<insert George W. Bush joke here>
Hush child. japangreg can do what he wants. - PAlexC
That was Zen - this is Tao.
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Banned
Originally Posted by MagnusVS
Sure, you can say that you don't believe in anything, but you don't have the evidence to claim as a fact that God doesn't exists.
yes yes i can prove, but you need to admit that i proved it ok??
Now i can prove that you do not have a third eye. how do i prove? well, just look at yourself, you dont find any third eye. So it proves there isn't one. Exactly the same applies here. Why should i spend my life time just assuming that there is a gentleman named GOD if it can never appear before me even once in my life time, even if i had done so many good things in my life, atleast i have the rights to get an appointment fixed to see this great GOD.
I feel so stupid if i had to end my life having faith in an nonexistant thing.
ok so now its your turn to prove IT EXITS. take your time but come back with a proof ok???
Originally Posted by MagnusVS
<insert George W. Bush joke here>
what joke?
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supervillain
Originally Posted by deepakflash
I guess a person who doesn't have selfbelief always try to support the existance of god...
erm, no.
I have a very strong belief in myself, self-destiny, et al. But I believe in God due to other reasons that aren't "supernatural" in origin. No miracles, no splitting seas in half, or changing Coke to Pepsi.
I just do. Can't prove it. Same with ghosts. They exist to some people. To others they don't. But don't sidetrack your own discussion(s) by bringing God into the convo. You just fell into your own quicksand trap - it's been done here at FK waaaaay too many times and it's never ended pretty.
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Senior Member
I'm really starting to believe that ghosts are just disillusion people's imagination run wild.
I hang out with some rather odd folks who claim a ghost frequents their house, but in the hundreds of times I've been there, this frequent visitor has never shown up. I've heard stories about my home town's local legend, but every time I've been out there I'm usually the one sneaking up on people, otherwise we'd all get bored, unless a squirrel decided to make a ruckus.
But I still get a kick out of going to haunted houses, no matter how lame. It is fun to wonder if you're wrong.
As far as the matter about God, I believe and I leave it at that, facebook has debates 100+ pages long that accomplished nothing, so why waste room here at a more respectable website.
Whoever taught EVERYONE to put all their code on movie clips needs to be shot...
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