New version

[Bob Hartzell]

I have placed a new version (1.75 beta) at http://www.koolmoves.com/km175beta.exe

This is what is new and fixed:
1. Added MP3 audio
2. Added capability to use a .fun file as a preloader
3. Added elapsed time of current frame to navigation toolbar
4. Added bitmap transparency
5. Added capability to define button hit area
6. Added capability to display grid on top or on bottom
7. Moved movie frame from bottom to top of animation
8. Added display of mouse position or amount of rotation to status bar
9. Fixed point selection problems primarily associated with symbols
10. Fixed symbol rotation problem for pure rotation (still needs more work)
11. Removed restriction limiting entry of long strings for url target
12. Fixed bug with saving screen capture to a file name other than the default

I will get to bitmap scaling and rotation next round.

How do you feel about the accelerators for playing the animation (e.g., ctrl+enter)?

Do you feel that importing swf files is a high priority?

Would you like to see a button that will launch a sound editor of your choice in the area where sound is associated with frames or buttons? Are there any good freeware sound editors?

Should drop shadow functionality be a high priority?

Should movie clips be a high priority?

I haven't forgotten about bones. Since Moho seems to be abandoning swf export, bones is definitely more interesting to me.

[WebExec]

Kick Ass... Awesome, Bob.

[johnie]

Originally posted by Bob Hartzell
I have placed a new version (1.75 beta) at http://www.koolmoves.com/km175beta.exe


How do you feel about the accelerators for playing the animation (e.g., ctrl+enter)?

Do you feel that importing swf files is a high priority?

Would you like to see a button that will launch a sound editor of your choice in the area where sound is associated with frames or buttons? Are there any good freeware sound editors?

Should drop shadow functionality be a high priority?

Should movie clips be a high priority?

I haven't forgotten about bones. Since Moho seems to be abandoning swf export, bones is definitely more interesting to me.

Movie clips are a kinda high on my list (Swish 2.0 supports it) but importing SWF's is a little lower.

Yes there are some pretty awsome freware sound editors. The one by digi design is probably the best one. The sound edit function would be great.

Drop shadows are so so on the priority list. It would be nice but you can manually do a drop shadow.


Nice work on the new edition.

[evolbeagle]

Very nice. Thanks, Bob.

I did notice in playing with the great new preload movie feature that if you make a change in that particular aspect of your movie, the program does not ask if you want to save that change before closing the file. I had not played much until recently with the previous version of the preload feature, so I don't know if this is different from before. It's also not a huge deal since the preload movie is a separate entity and can easily be changed back and forth with the click of a button, but I did want to let you know just in case.

Also, this program has added so much just in the short time I've owned it (since version 1.60). I'm wondering at what point you'll want to charge a little more for an upgrade. Particluarly once you add scalable bitmap and bones, I can't think of why I would need any other program to do what I need done. I'm not complaining about the steady price so far, mind you, just wondering what your plans are.

Thanks again.

PS - Oh yeah, it being a new millenium and all, I should finally introduce myself so you guys don't have to keep referring to me by my flashkit screen name if you don't want to. I'm Matt. Nice to meet everybody.

[johnie]

Its weird I have an old version of Kool Moves and the new version open sidwe by side. I can tell the differences.

I imported a bitmap and then set it to fade in but it won't play in the internal player unless I set it to step by step play.


also found another bug. Images with bitmaps don't move. It locks the shape at its intial position.

[Bob Hartzell]

We have not discussed our future pricing plans among ourselves. I am curious what Swish 2.0 will cost.

Johnie, can you provide at your leisure a link or two (your specialty) to some freeware audio editing software.

[johnie]

$40.00 or at least that's what they've been saying.

[johnie]

Free tools:


Pro tools- very good sound editing system- http://www.digidesign.com/flashnav/index.html

ALF a Wav to MP3 Encoder - http://www.philnet.u-net.com/


http://www.dbpoweramp.com/ Sound format converter

ASIA- a free wave editor. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/9182/

Windiows media Player and Windows sound recorder can be used to create wavs and convert many formats to WAV painlessly.

Those are the best of the free ones- Oh yeah there are also several midi piano running arround also- I left those out

And then there are two shareware products that are pretty good also:

GoldWave http://www.goldwave.com/ (shareware $40.00)

and

Audio Mulch http://www.audiomulch.com/index.htm (share ware $50)

[BradBradleySL]

Impressive work Bob. Can't wait to try out all the new features.

Drop shadows, and movie clips are high on my list.

Also motion paths??
And of course good ol bones...

Some good sound editors and such are made by the same guy who made.

http://www.threechords.com/hammerhea...oduction.shtml

you will find links to a bunch of other freeware programs.
hammerhead is great for making drumloops quickly

Can't wait to get home and play:-d

Brad

Question bob? Your current design for the bones, would it be limited to bipedal characters, you said you were incorporating a stick figure as the base framework for the bones, will we be able to set guidelines, move bones....details maybe??:-d

[BradBradleySL]

OH and multiply windows for different views would be great RRRRReally want this

Brad

[Bob Hartzell]

You will be able to draw your own stick figure so it doens't matter what the shape is -- human, animal, other.

What do you mean by different windows for different views?

I'll check out the bitmap bugs. It was a big deal to get transparency to work so I goofed up something in the process.

[Bob Hartzell]

Originally posted by johnie
I imported a bitmap and then set it to fade in but it won't play in the internal player unless I set it to step by step play.

I don't see this problem.

[johnie]

I think Brad is wanting something like a 3-D engine where you have multiple panels with mutiple views- Like one panel would be the top, and the next would be the right side, and the next would be the left side, and another would be the front view. I see what Brad is saying how it would seem useful to display the wire frame view and regular view at the same time but I'm not so overly sure about it. I think ading the views and Cut, Copy, Paste functions to the right click menu would be more useful.

[johnie]

The problem went away when I closed the older version of Kool Moves. I had the last version and the new version both open.

[BradBradleySL]

NO NO NO...not a 3d engine
I want to be able to see wireframe view and shaded view, and also be able to see a zoomed view and a full view. Get?? Actually maybe more useful would be a navigation window, that would work just as well i think, think photoshop, and the navigation window would stay the same view type, despite if the working window was changed to wireframe, this would help navigation throughout a scene too.

Good with bones Can't wait. What i have read of your idea i like.

Ahh, johnie i see you were comparing what i wanted to a 3d engine, ok.
I agree with Johnie, add cut, copy, and paste to right click along with views.

And motion paths...

Brad

[TPhilipDolce]

Johnnie,
I've been using Goldwave,...and loving it. Your suggestion for Pro tools looks even better,..but I'll have to download it while I'm asleep. 40MB,.....you gotta be kiddin me with dial up!!!! Cripes!!! I may be lucky to see it in the morning.

Bob,...I've been messing with Flipbook and SoftImage Toonz and although I know we are talking $11,000.00 for Toonz,..I think KM is well on its way to a very serious program.... You just got to incorporate bones. There's just no way around it. Great work!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh,..and please follow suit with Swish's pricing and not Toonz (hee hee hee)

[johnie]

I have it and it is a real good program except that it needs a lot of memory and its huge. It took me a day to download.

[johnie]

Originally posted by BradBradleySL




Some good sound editors and such are made by the same guy who made.

the link if you want it.

http://www.threechords.com/scripts/h...egory=Software

[TPhilipDolce]

Just a footnote to my previous comments,....Bob,..I hope I didn't come across as snobbish,...I do not own Toonz,..but merely got my hands on a demo. I do not have $11,000.00 to pluck down for software, believe me!!!!! Anyway,....Kool Moves is a very nice program,...and I will eventually get around to buying it regardless of the price. (unless it's $11,000.00!!!)

I'm just a very particular person (wife puts it in other terms) and will continue to wait before buying "any" program until I feel it can produce results for me that I will need and expect.

TD
PS://Johnie,..I downloaded that ProTools beast,..but before I unleash it onto my harddrive, can you tell me if it will allow me to eport as .mp3? Will it allow for me to import .wavs (combine different tracks) and export as mp3 or is this thing strictly for musicians and .midi files?
[Edited by TPhilipDolce on 01-04-2001 at 02:35 PM]

[5minutes]

Thank you, Bob. Great work!

How do you feel about the accelerators for playing the animation (e.g., ctrl+enter)?
-very useful

Do you feel that importing swf files is a high priority?
-no

Would you like to see a button that will launch a sound editor of your choice in the area where sound is associated with frames or buttons?
- not necessary

Should drop shadow functionality be a high priority?
-yes

Should movie clips be a high priority?
-no

sincerely
Dirk