Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
(Remember those unalienable rights to "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"? If healthcare doesn't qualify as "Life" then those words may as well mean less than nothing.)
natural or legal rights? The declaration of independence has no legal standing. As far as natural.. the phrase life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is based on ""no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions." If i am forced at gun point to pay for your health care.. is not my life, health, liberty and possessions not being harmed?

I say at gun point because treasury officers due carry guns.


Other countries with national health care spend much less and cover everyone.
We spend much more in our privatized system and only cover a percentage of the population.
what are the other nations contributions to global medical research? Who are other nations lifestyles more or less healthy than ours.


The big insurance and drug companies control the message and the government.
i agree.
Obama is finding that out the hard way.
You may want to follow the money.. much of it has at times lead to Obama. Obama is in terms of politics perhaps one of our smartest presidents. I really doubt anything concerning politics will surprise him.