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Griffhiggins 2.2
Originally posted by cyk Im not going to get into a point by point debate- just tell me a couple of things Bush did to benfit the country so far?
give everyone a couple hundered bucks? [/B]
I think I already addressed all the items in your list..
Do you have any more?
What Bush has done? Easy.
Tax cuts. Not only the 300 dollar reimbursments but all of the tax cuts...most of which haven't come in to effect yet.
Signed an education bill that partially allows for private school vouchers.
Made stem cell research on "test tube babies" illegal.
Currently pushing for a bill that will abolish estate tax.
Reformed(ing) the immigration system.
Pushed for less energy reliance on the middle east.
That's his accomplishments off the top of my head. . .
Give me some more time and I'll complete it. . .
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Griffhiggins 2.2
Getting blow jobs is worse.
Selling arms to Iran??? Where did you get that? Sources please?
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Originally posted by LanSite
Originally posted by cyk
Moral Obligation? its not his job to raise anybodys kids,
You honestly believe that a leader of any country has no moral obligation to his people?
Moral obligation, absolutely. but morals regarding sexual practices should be taught in the home.
Im not saying what he did was right by any means but this should have been a private issue between him and his family, it certainly wasn't him that opened this up for national exposure. It was the Republicans who put together fact finding teams to dig up dirt
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Originally posted by cyk
Originally posted by SeaWolf
People like Tom Daschle are a total discrace to our republic and I personally think that guy should be locked up.
hiel SeaWolf
note to seaweed: book burning tomorrow at noon, we'll git ourselves some of those non believers too and hog tie 'em [/B]
Your intelligence is shining brightly cyk. Keep up the good work and I'll keep looking for your enlightenment in the future.
Late
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Originally posted by SeaWolf
Originally posted by cyk
Originally posted by SeaWolf
People like Tom Daschle are a total discrace to our republic and I personally think that guy should be locked up.
hiel SeaWolf
note to seaweed: book burning tomorrow at noon, we'll git ourselves some of those non believers too and hog tie 'em
Your intelligence is shining brightly cyk. Keep up the good work and I'll keep looking for your enlightenment in the future.
Late [/B]
you probably should spend some time looking for your own
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 In a cavern, in a canyon,
Excavating for a mine,
Dwelt a miner, forty-niner
And his daughter Clementine.
Oh my darling, Clementine
Originally posted by cyk
Moral obligation, absolutely. but morals regarding sexual practices should be taught in the home.
Im not saying what he did was right by any means but this should have been a private issue between him and his family, it certainly wasn't him that opened this up for national exposure. It was the Republicans who put together fact finding teams to dig up dirt
Okay - wasn't sure and wanted to clear that up.
I'm not sure I agree with you, though on your second point. You're right - it isn't up to him to raise our kids and teach them right from wrong (from your earlier post). I do think, however, that as a public figure it *is* his responsibility to conduct himself in a way that we can all be proud of. In a way we don't have to be embarrassed about. And I mean this for *all* presidents.
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Originally posted by LanSite
Originally posted by cyk
Moral obligation, absolutely. but morals regarding sexual practices should be taught in the home.
Im not saying what he did was right by any means but this should have been a private issue between him and his family, it certainly wasn't him that opened this up for national exposure. It was the Republicans who put together fact finding teams to dig up dirt
Okay - wasn't sure and wanted to clear that up.
I'm not sure I agree with you, though on your second point. You're right - it isn't up to him to raise our kids and teach them right from wrong (from your earlier post). I do think, however, that as a public figure it *is* his responsibility to conduct himself in a way that we can all be proud of. In a way we don't have to be embarrassed about. And I mean this for *all* presidents.
I agree with that completely, however, for myself that wasn't a source of embarassment - I was already aware that many of our great leaders through time were prone to extra-marital affairs, some even openly. It really didn't matter because I was already proud of him as our President , though I do hate that its what he will be remebered for. I however will always remeber him as the guy who stuck up for the those who previously had no mainstream voice-its a hard thing to do and I respect for it. I also think he was sincere when he did because he truly believed that it was the right thing to do,
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Originally posted by CNO
But see, that's the thing - I think someone who is a role model should know the art of public speaking, or at least when to keep quiet versus saying inane things. 
if were that lucky to have the "great ones" around here follow their own advice.
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CYK. I do believe that personal putdowns about other FK'ers are not acceptable. If they are then I would just like to say that I don't like them pointed at me. Please don't let this escalate any further.
Late
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Originally posted by SeaWolf
CYK. I do believe that personal putdowns about other FK'ers are not acceptable. If they are then I would just like to say that I don't like them pointed at me. Please don't let this escalate any further.
Late
I was pretty sure you were referring to my intelligence with sarcasm?
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supervillain
Seawolf, stating that Cliffy is wasting his time with "these people" that are set in their ways is not exactly nice either.
so, all parties... play nice. Got it?
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Originally posted by gerbick
Seawolf, stating that Cliffy is wasting his time with "these people" that are set in their ways is not exactly nice either.
so, all parties... play nice. Got it?
Geez gerbs, I thought you hated it when people put words in your mouths.
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N' then I might just Jump back on An' ride Like a cowboy Into the dawn ........To Montana.
this is a long thread.....and it has gone the way of many.
Sorry Lannie, but it needs to be done now before it goes further.
thread closed.
Anyone with any concerns, feel free to email me and discuss.
david p.
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