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    semiotics in multimedia

    Since the multimedia resources were introduced on the educational market, the experts endeavoured to analyze quality of it. When we examine the various existing methods, we are brought to raise that the criteria taken into account in the evaluation stick primarily to the ergonomic, technical aspects and with the simplicity of implementation of the educational software. The cognitive aspects are seldom considered. It however seems essential to have tools which make it possible to measure the capacity that has a system of multimedia training to produce knowledge beyond its simple aesthetic aspect. Basing us on the semiotics of Charles Sanders Peirce, we project here making of a tool for semiotic assistance to the evaluation of educational multimedia.

    what are your opinions ?

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    do you know, I was just thinking about this very topic. You must have read my mind.

    I work for a company which has multi £million contracts with the UK government to produce online testing of the keystage testing programme and basic / essential skills level traing and testing.
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    Originally posted by swampy
    do you know, I was just thinking about this very topic. You must have read my mind.
    I must have. I think I overheard SJT talking about it in another thread too...

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    this thread may be of interest :

    http://www.flashkit.com/board/showth...hreadid=385159

    it brough to light some of the problems of building sites for mentally impaired users in an educational environment, kin of forcing the creator of any content for the site to think very carefully about the semiotics.

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    Originally posted by swampy
    this thread may be of interest :

    http://www.flashkit.com/board/showth...hreadid=385159

    it brough to light some of the problems of building sites for mentally impaired users in an educational environment, kin of forcing the creator of any content for the site to think very carefully about the semiotics.
    interesting read there swampy. At what stage would one think of their semiotics though? Would it be the analysis and design stage or later in the lifecycle?

    In previous experience, its always been looked upon as an afterthought.

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    I think the way of thinking now is that it has to be built into the planning stage of the project, especially with the example I highlighted as it is such an intrinsic part of the development. However it could be argued that the fact that the site is being planned and built for mentally handicapped users forces the designers hand. In effect the fact that it os for this particular user base becomes the brief rather than remaining incidental to the brief.

    Macromedia have been pushing usability recently, due to cries that flash designeres tend not to think of the user when designing. To my mind semiotics and usability go hand in hand. Every one has visited (or even built) a site wher thenavigational icons bear little or no correlation to the content which they are meant to signpost the way to.

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    not neccesasrily just for mentally disabled people, but lets hear what everyones favourite Jakob says about it

    http://useit.mondosearch.com/cgi-bin...ABLE+DISABLES+

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    Ha! I told you

    Time for your Plan B I think Razor...
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    Originally posted by SJT
    Ha! I told you

    Time for your Plan B I think Razor...
    Okay,

    if 10 seperate people discuss semiotics in here by the end of the day, I will post a topless picture of Pamela Anderson or any other star requested.

    Go spread the word

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    Does discussing the semiotics of film count?

    We can analyse a hitchcock scene from a Freudian point of view!

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    Originally posted by Markp.com
    Does discussing the semiotics of film count?

    We can analyse a hitchcock scene from a Freudian point of view!
    erm...

    yes, if you like

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    Originally posted by RazoRmedia
    erm...

    yes, if you like
    <Freud voice>Vell you zee... itz all about hiz mother... </Freud voice>

    Should I go into the whole, why he casts himself into different roles within his own films? Self objectification (masturbation) and so on...

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    This seems to have, semiotically speaking, gone down the pan...
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    Originally posted by SJT
    This seems to have, semiotically speaking, gone down the pan...
    true mate true, I admit defeat, you were right

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    Tis a bitter-sweet victory indeed...
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    it was a forgone conclusion.

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    I did say from a Freudian perspective!!!! Crikey people, its not all smut and Viz jokes

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    Nah, it's not about your reply...

    Me:
    Somehow I cant really see a discussion on semiotics in multimedia going anywhere in the CL...
    Swampy:
    we are currently testing SJT's hypothesus.

    so far only bruce and I are involved in the discussion, and frankly I'm running out of quasi-intelligent multi sylabelled words
    Razor:
    someone will join in, keep it topped steven. If we haven't got a semi decent discussion by tomorrow, I will start posting risque ladies in there
    Sam



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