thanks for the replies, i would post my hit test but it is pointless as it is crap, i can do hit tests normally but this just threw me off, ive tried divilly's way but the hit test doesnt work, everything else works though, i guess it must be the reading form the array thats the problem but i havent had any experience with reading arrays before (never really bothered with them), anyone know whats wrong, thanks for the help so far though.