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**swampy** · 08-31-2005, 05:05 PM

mais oui, mon amis

**indivision** · 08-31-2005, 07:48 PM

are there paid offices of people looking for things like this or what?

**ViRGo_RK** · 08-31-2005, 08:00 PM

Look, I'm sorry.

It appears in the "White people picture" they have one loaf of bread, one gallon of milk.

The "black man picture", he has a trash bag? Either way, i don't care, in situations like that it becomes dog eat dog.

But apparently there are gangs starting to take form down there, anyone hear about that? A sheriff was shot in the head (he'll survive, though)

**TallGuyLittleCar** · 08-31-2005, 08:05 PM

I could be wrong, but I believe there have been gangs down there for some time. I would not be suprised if the gangs currently roaming the canals are the same gangs that were roaming the streets.

I could be wrong about NO's gang situation, but I do remember it being a fairly criminal city at one point in time.

**gerbick** · 08-31-2005, 08:07 PM

the white couple has backpacks. what's in those things?

find, loot. sorry, I'm not going to split hairs any longer... **** the US media. it's portayal of the differences between the races should make any person with a sense of anything outside of themselves ashamed.

watch the news closely. a black person does a crime, they're more than likely to show the picture of the culprit. a white person do the crime, you're lucky to see a picture... or get a description.

The gangs in NO are pretty bad... so is crime.

**ViRGo_RK** · 08-31-2005, 08:07 PM

I could be wrong about NO's gang situation, but I do remember it being a fairly criminal city at one point in time.

True, but now they're attempting to become a more organized, higher form of authority if I heard correctly.

**ViRGo_RK** · 08-31-2005, 08:54 PM

I understand that you have a pet peeve for racisim gerb, and thats definitly an understatement, but it is a two-sided street. Does that make it any better? Hell no. I think it's dispicable and neandrathal-esque, regardless who perpetuates the bull****.

**gerbick** · 08-31-2005, 09:17 PM

My biggest problem though... the "looters" are part of the disenfranchised, poor people that couldn't evacuate, have been jobless for a long time, and it talks about how bad the situation were for the tourist haven of New Orleans and Biloxi... they've turned their respective backs on that lot.

Now, with martial law and people stranded on second story buildings surrounded by stagnant water and perhaps in areas where it's going to be a breeding ground to disease; everybody is concerned with "looting" of groceries.

And it's perishable stuff to begin with.

But the whole "find" and "loot" problem is just an inconsistency that's persistent with the social ills here in the US any damn way. To relegate it to anything else - you're not the target anyway, so why not call it something else when you're white or non-black?

Oh well. It's all just a media bias that's annoying the hell out of me. I know half of this board harbors prejudices that would probably incite a riot if spoken aloud.

**ViRGo_RK** · 08-31-2005, 09:28 PM

This is why I don't follow the news on a daily basis unless it's something important. Too much shock value, not enough valuable information.

**AxiomFlash** · 09-01-2005, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by gerbick

Welcome to the media bias that's always in the US.

yay.

goddamn liberal bias. f'in hippie journalists!!! lol

**luvenny** · 09-01-2005, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by gerbick

Welcome to the media bias that's always in the US.

yay.

It's there, It's here, It's everywhere~

**indivision** · 09-01-2005, 03:27 AM

any race-based discrimination in the news is shameful and i'm sure it happens. but, are the pictures/captions in this case an example of that? if the info came from two unrelated agencies (not sure if it did?) then couldn't it be that neither of them has a double-standard but that each chose to use a different word as a standard for the same activity?

**gerbick** · 09-01-2005, 04:05 AM

ok. same activity, different word.

and you see no bias on how the negative word got pinned on the black dude, but not the white people?

Seriously?

**SpockBert** · 09-01-2005, 04:37 AM

wow, that is amazing.

I'm a million miles away from being Mr PC and rarely get offended/bothered by stuff I read but thats just taking the piss, had to email that round.

I'm gonna go out later and find a Porsche from the dealership nearby

**gerbick** · 09-01-2005, 04:40 AM

I better not come along then... seems like I can't find stuff like that.

I'll be car-"borrowing" just like Grand Theft Auto here soon. car-borrowing... you heard it here first folks.

**indivision** · 09-01-2005, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by gerbick

ok. same activity, different word.

and you see no bias on how the negative word got pinned on the black dude, but not the white people?

Seriously?

Well. If it was by two different agencies, I have no way of knowing whether or not either one of them would just as readily use the same word they chose no matter what the race was. Perhaps to AP, they were all looters and to AFP or whoever, they were all finders. Maybe that the pictures they chose to use had peope of different races on them is just coincidental?

**gerbick** · 09-01-2005, 04:55 AM

meh. lost cause explaining a side or problem that you'll never be able to see. yeah... it all boils down to the different agencies. you're so very right.

I won't waste another sentence.

**indivision** · 09-01-2005, 05:09 AM

yes. i believe it does 'boil down to the different agencies.' if AP calls people of all races taking food from stores 'looting' and AFP calls people of all races taking from stores 'finding', neither of them is engaging in racial discrimination. but, don't let my ignorance waste your time!

**aversion** · 09-01-2005, 07:08 AM

Point is here the two photographs prove nothing, no one's denying that this kind of racism happens and in all probability black people will be looting and white people will be 'finding', but these two photographs are not evidence of that. They can be used to illustrate the problem, but they're not evidence of it.

No one's denying racism like this exists but to say that by comparing these two images you can accuse either company (one of which is french by the way) of racism just isn't true. Look for other images from the same company and see how they're labelled, you might find exactly the same thing and be able to point at that and say there's racism, but comparing these two images, spreading them across the internet and yelling racism, especially when you're accusing yahoo, isn't doing anyone any justice.

Find a real example of racist bias in the media, I'm sure they're there. It just disturbs me that people seem to be grabbing onto something that doesn't add up and spreading it around because it's such a convenient example if you ignore its provenance.

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