I agree with the dont try and learn programing,n What I was saying is that the logic behind java script is similar (arguments) to action script. This way they could get a better understanding of it. I have never designed anything on paper (except for concept and storyboard) Its always a solution to the situation at hand. So you may code somthing one way today and solve the same type of problem a totaly different way the next day. But to understand how agruments work and the logic behind it I still stick to what I originaly said. Regards, Bill

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Macromedians 1:1

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