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03-20-2006, 09:08 PM
#101
Registered User
While the big ones, of course, will get richer.
Yes, saddly, that's what it really appears to be all about.
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03-20-2006, 09:16 PM
#102
supervillain
 Originally Posted by argonauta
over here it's mandatory, so yes
You've voted in this thread?
not in your country. in the Arena.
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03-20-2006, 09:18 PM
#103
poet and narcisist
 Originally Posted by gerbick
You've voted in this thread?
not in your country. in the Arena.
is it mandatory?
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03-20-2006, 09:27 PM
#104
supervillain
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03-20-2006, 09:41 PM
#105
Banned
You didnt really answer my question. On the one hand you said you dont think other countries should interfere with others. But, you consider the value of a dictator that might not let anything oppose them. Your reply here just offers more examples that contradict that idea.
 Originally Posted by argonauta
See this is the situation: you don't request help, then you don't need help. Either you ask for help, or somebody offers help, but acts if that help is accepted.
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The problem here is that the situation of everyone in a country asking for help does not exist. If they all wanted a certain change, it wouldnt be a problem to begin with. The fact is, there are dissidents in China that ARE asking for help, not just from the US but from the rest of the world. There were also people asking for help in Iraq and Afghanistan and there are currently people asking for help in Iran. What you seem to be implying here is that there are tolerable levels of oppression. I believe that oppression is always bad and should be confronted in whatever way is going to be effective (sometimes there is no effective way for any other country to intervene). The amount of the oppression is irregardless toward whether or not its wrong. Like I pointed out before, this isn't a uniquely US "attitude." Ridding the world of oppression is part of the official UN mandate which most countries of the world are on board with, including many in latin america.
 Originally Posted by argonauta
I don't think you can understand, because you see, things look different depending on where you're standing.
You could make the same argument in reverse. You cant understand why the US does what it needs to because you aren't in the position to make those decisions. I'm not saying thats what I believe but pointing out that this argument doesnt bring us toward any understanding.
 Originally Posted by argonauta
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So, well, that's about it. You see things how you see them, but that's not the only truth, never. Everybody lives their own truth.
"Everybody warms their hands to a different fire." -Axl
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03-20-2006, 09:58 PM
#106
Registered User
You cant understand why the US does what it needs to because you aren't in the position to make those decisions.
You don't have to be from Equador to make that claim. I can't understand why the US does what it does anymore.
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