Flash Player 9

[mr_malee]

guess its not a beta anymore

grab it here

http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash

hopefully i'm not late with this one

[tomsamson]

no,you´re not too late on this one
And yup,this is the frst time there´s a new flash player before there´s the new flash ide for a while.
The good side is that the player will be quite widespread and ready for doing commercial stuff (at least for early adopter clients) for it when the flash ide gets released .

And yup,as i think there will be some wondering going on,i want to clear these things ahead:

Maybe you´ve heard that AS3/Flash Player 9 has huge performance boosts when its about code execution times compared to flash player 8 and older players.
If you download the new player and notice no speed improvement for stuff done for older players,that is because of this reason:

Flash player9 has two virtual machines in it. The virtual machine is the "engine" interpreting the code. Stuff done specifically for fp9 is exported a bit different and also interpreted quite a bit different (that different handling actually leads to the huge speed boost).
Therefore stuff done for older players wouldn´t run well in the new virtual machine.
So they added the old virtual machine (of flash player 8 ) for execution of older flash content and then the new virtual machine for execution of content exported for the new player in flash player 9.
So your old content won´t get any automatic speed boost.
If you want to see the performance increase you have to try stuff done for the new player,like this:
http://recycle.andre-michelle.com/as3/beta3/as3d/

[Fall_X]

Now it's just a matter of waiting until they support 3D natively, with opengl and directx support. If done well, they could take away the market from products like blitz3d, truevision, etc.

[tonypa]

Adobe has released an extension of Flash Professional 8 to include support for Actionscript 3.0, enabling you to take advantage of the new ActionScript virtual machine in Adobe Flash Player 9

Nice

Download "Flash Professional 9 ActionScript 3.0 Preview" here:
http://labs.adobe.com/

[mr_malee]

thats freakin awesome. So AS3 in flash 8 IDE

[Chaos_Blader]

Didnt Flash 8 Just come out a Year ago? Man technology is leavin me behind. I dont even know Flash 8 has to offer and I got it when it came out. Im not sure I have the money for the new version.

[Fall_X]

The player is free. The new ide will not come out for a while, so don't worry.

[tonypa]

Goody, framerate can now be changed within movie:

stage.frameRate - frameRate:Number [read-write] - "Gets and sets the frame rate of the stage."

Of course this is not ACTUAL framerate, its the number you type in fps box which player tries to maintain.

[Chaos_Blader]

When do yout hink It will come out. I got the public Alpha. DO you think it will comeout with a Studio 9 Suite? Will FireWorks be discontinued? Dreamwaeaver is already amazing I dont know how the can update it.

[tomsamson]

the full version of flash9 IDE is sheduled for release sometime 2007.

(If other previously maromedia apps will be discontinued or not under adobe lead is somewhat offtopic here. Personally i´d guess fireworks could be disconinued,for dreamweaver i don´t think so,but yeah,up to now i have no further info on that)

Goody, framerate can now be changed within movie:

stage.frameRate - frameRate:Number [read-write] - "Gets and sets the frame rate of the stage."

Yeah,a nice little addition

Of course this is not ACTUAL framerate, its the number you type in fps box which player tries to maintain.

sure,then again with the improved code handling it CAN actually achieve way better framerates on the same box for most types of code dependant content

[eggs-in-Wisconsin]

I have been hearing of some trouble with this new version.
Sites are not displaying at all, or as they should.

Is anybody else having any trouble viewing sites ?

[chriserrorplain]

the problem is probably people using flash detection scripts, that are looking for version 6,7,8. It comes across 9, doesn't recognise it, hence you get sent to a html version etc.

ChrisError//

[eggs-in-Wisconsin]

Ahm...so sites created with earier versions of flash, 5, 6, 7, or 8
and have the html reflecting that in the object tag, will not display?
So what, we have to change the object tags on all our old sites, in order to be displayed in flash 9?...or did I missunderstand you?

[tomsamson]

yeah,you misunderstood. Its not about the flash version stated in the param/embed tag causing problems. Its false flash detection scripts done in flash or js which only look for a certain version instead of looking for a minimum version (and allowing anything above,too).
Another thing is that i noticed several sites/content of em didn´t show well (buggy/messed up display etc) in some of the flash 8.5 beta versions but all work fine with fp9,so maybe you tried with a beta build?

[eggs-in-Wisconsin]

yeah,you misunderstood. Its not about the flash version stated in the param/embed tag causing problems. Its false flash detection scripts done in flash or js which only look for a certain version instead of looking for a minimum version (and allowing anything above,too).
Another thing is that i noticed several sites/content of em didn´t show well (buggy/messed up display etc) in some of the flash 8.5 beta versions but all work fine with fp9,so maybe you tried with a beta build?

Actually, I stumbled accross a discussion about this issue.
I haven't updated my player as yet.
Some people were freaking out when they went to view their own websites,
after having updated their player to flash9.
All they got was a empty page showing.
One looked at my page, and said that my page was not showing.
So I went in, and changed the player request from 6,0,76,0 to 9,0,16,0
and now it displays fine.

I'm not sure how to do the minimum request as you stated in your post.
I wonder if you would post an example of that, please?

Thanks

[tomsamson]

So I went in, and changed the player request from 6,0,76,0 to 9,0,16,0
and now it displays fine.

ok,nice
collin moock posted a flashdetection scriptset a good while ago,you could check that for reference:
http://www.moock.org/webdesign/flash...tion/moockfpi/

a flash version detection within flash itself could work something like this:
(quickly done,could be done sleeker of course) :

code:

---

targetVersion = 8;

//replace with your target major version

function checkVersion() {

	//parseInt($version.toString().split(' ')[1]);//returns 7 or 8

	var mainV = getVersion().split(" ");

	//returns os+playerv

	majorV = mainV[1].split(",");

	//returns playerv

	var splitteVersionNumber = String(majorV).split(",");

	fullRelease = Number(splitteVersionNumber[0]);

	firstDot = Number(splitteVersionNumber[1]);

	secondDot = Number(splitteVersionNumber[2]);

	return (new Number(majorV[0]));

}

if (checkVersion()<targetVersion) {

	gotoAndStop("versionNotMatching");

	versionText = "Your flash player version is: "+majorV

             +"you need flash player version "+targetVersion

             +". Go update your player";

	//...

}

---

Note that it also checks for subversions in the function,dunno if you need that.
Its generally wiser to use an outside flash detection script,as way older flash versions don´t support version number returning like that (and you also don´t get any result for the viewer if he doesn´t have flash player at all of course).
So its good to have flash side version detection as additional step,but it doesn´t replace outside flash detection.

[Chaos_Blader]

Man AS3 os hard to code. With the Flash 9 Alpha to code a simple socket is confusing. Can anyone make a simple socket test sending data "test" and has event attached?

[eggs-in-Wisconsin]

ok,nice

Note that it also checks for subversions in the function,dunno if you need that.
Its generally wiser to use an outside flash detection script,as way older flash versions don´t support version number returning like that (and you also don´t get any result for the viewer if he doesn´t have flash player at all of course).
So its good to have flash side version detection as additional step,but it doesn´t replace outside flash detection.

All I really need is for a site created in an earlier version of flash to display in the new flash9 player with out any nonsence.

Thanks for your time in this.

[jason merchant]

I downloaded the new player and tried to view the link posted above:
http://recycle.andre-michelle.com/as3/beta3/as3d/

All I get is a black screen, anyone else have this problem?

[tonypa]

I downloaded the new player and tried to view the link posted above:
http://recycle.andre-michelle.com/as3/beta3/as3d/

All I get is a black screen, anyone else have this problem?

Works well for me (FP 9.0.16.0; Opera 9.00; WinXP). It loads slowly, so maybe wait a little.

One looked at my page, and said that my page was not showing.

Not working (FP 9.0.16.0; Opera 9.00; WinXP). I see black rectangle, but when I right click it says "Movie not loaded".

Man AS3 os hard to code. With the Flash 9 Alpha to code a simple socket is confusing. Can anyone make a simple socket test sending data "test" and has event attached?

lol, I am still trying to get movie clips attached on stage and make them move