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    Internet TV in koolmoves?

    Hi, is there any possibility to add TV player on my site? There are some stations, transmitting video to net, and id like to receive some of those video (concert transmisions for example). Is there any possibility to just show the video on my site?

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    if the are FLV videos you could. Otherwise I'd say no.

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    Hm... thats interesting. Unfortunately theyve got only wmv files on server. So ive got another question: how to get video from my camera and stream it? Do i need a special server?

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    true streaming yes does actually require a streaming server. What FlV does on standard server "looks" like streaming but it's really "progressive downloading" The biggest difference is how it handles multiple requests and true streaming the entire video never exists on the client machine and is protects your content more.

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    Look into the VLC player
    http://www.videolan.org/

    its actually 50% a streaming server,it's open source
    and it plays flv no probs(with its own codecs)..so may realtime encode...I read of other people converting to stream flv on their forum..

    worth a look

    mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by blanius
    true streaming yes does actually require a streaming server. What FlV does on standard server "looks" like streaming but it's really "progressive downloading" The biggest difference is how it handles multiple requests and true streaming the entire video never exists on the client machine and is protects your content more.
    Not to interup but koolmoves does a good job I think with flv's. I have a decent server that I use and I doubt that the free ones are any good. But putting up stuff from a cam corder should be easy. I have taken small movies from my cheap concord 1.3 Meg pixels camera and have made little movies that can be displayed on the internet.
    I did have a problem with getting one flv to play when another ended but I simply did not finish the project.
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    Hmm was wandering there....

    if you can get your movie into your computor then it can usually be converted to flv (riva do a free version)

    Upload to a decent server and play using a player made in koolmoves...(necromanthus has a working example)

    For a server there are a lot of sites popping up..eg blip.tv...they seem to convert to flv anyway now and you can use their player or your own.

    I suppose the only question is the type of camcorder/interface you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_Z
    how to get video from my camera and stream it? Do i need a special server?
    Ive asked becasue i need to put image from my camera live on net, and i thought that the easiest way should be flv... im a total newbie about streaming etc. Im going to buy a camera, but now ive got a TV card and i can connect "normal" analog camera over s-video.

    I cant convert video to flv and then put it on aserver - i need to have "live" transmission. Im gonna transmit some video stuff for students - you now, blackboard and other things. This is for on-line japanese study project.

    What abot riva - when ill be amused, ill buy it... but i wont have any profits, so i wouldnt like to be amused... and its gonna be a problem to buy it, cause i live in Poland...

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    Look into the camera object. This is not the same as FLV encoding and it's much lower rez but it can do live. I think it may require Flash Communication server though.

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    Would a web cam work? Someone here actually created one with koolmoves about 2 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmoore935
    Would a web cam work? Someone here actually created one with koolmoves about 2 years ago.
    Yeah, why not? and... more details please :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_Z
    Yeah, why not? and... more details please :]
    Let me email the guy who wrote it. Then I will let you know
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    I'm sure it would work but it would need to run locally not from server I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by blanius
    It would need to run locally not from server I think
    does that mean that i must send video to local program, convert it and next to server?

    i need to allow only 1 person to transmit video. the rest can only watch it.. and use chat.

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    That should work. Look at camera object

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    I can make a koolmoves reader/display for webcams but have not got streaming to work.

    Free solutions are:

    Have you tried NetMeeting? This is included with microsoft XP, but I have never used it.

    another is skype.
    http://www.skype.com/
    I actually used this for a job since I was communicating with someone in Europe and I was in the states and it works. This is PC to PC. And I know webcams work with it.
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    Netmeeting was made by Micro$oft, so it obviousely bad.
    Skype is good, but it allows only 4 people in a conference, and the number of 'students' will oscillate about 20... i also need to have 'kick' and 'ban' options, and ive got them in my (php) chat.
    Ive planned to put video window above thin chat window, only for max 3 lines on one time. Chat is going not to be for talk, but for asking questions.

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    Netmeeting was made by Micro$oft, so it obviousely bad.
    Huh?..............LOL

    Koolmoves System Requirements:
    Windows 98/2000/Me/NT/XP

    Skype System Requirements:

    Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP
    or Mac OS X
    64MB RAM
    233mhz CPU or better
    5MB for Install Disk Space

    So let's see...you must not be a Macintosh user or you could not be Kool. You can't skype without a Microsoft product yet you think Microsoft products are bad. You cannot create any Koolmoves movie without a Microsoft product to install it on. Odd how we bite the hand that feeds us.

    Oh yeah...and Skype recommends you have Windows Media Player installed...yet another creation by that capitalist pig!!!......lol

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    Well just for reference Adobe/MM make "BREEZE" for this very purpose. Be sitting down when you read the price.

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    up to my .as in code Chris_Seahorn's Avatar
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    Uh-oh...that sounds like a greedy company too Hey...wait a minute...doesn't that also require a Microsoft product to install it on? lol

    I refuse to believe Bob Hartzell (who's a pretty bright guy) would base his program on an "obviously bad" product like Windows!!.....


    THanks for the morning chuckle Antz.....no hard feelings man....I love the irony

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