sounds like some (hot) stuff we´ve been waiting for

[VENGEANCE MX]

Not seeing any differences here on my Mac. Birchlabs still lags in the same places, Polarity might be a tiny bit faster, not sure. Bubble Islands goes at a perfect speed, but I'm not sure what it was before. The copyPixels() performance test is going exactly the same speed as ever (would've expected at least _some_ difference there).

[Squize]

That's odd.

Check this mate:
http://blog.gamingyourway.com/content/binary/Plasma.swf

I'm getting a fixed 30 fps in FF, where as running locally it maxes at around 27, average around 25.

Let us know what you get, be interesting to see if the same old gap between windows and mac is still there even with this update.

Squize.

PS. I've not got a dual core either, so that's not affecting my results.

[VENGEANCE MX]

Goes up to about 18 fps

Btw, better Mac/PC speed comparisons can be done now... Apple just released a Windows version of Safari. Best browser I've ever used on Windows. Also boots up, renders, and JavaScripts faster than IE, Firefox, and Opera.

[turtlesoup]

I'm confused.

Did Flash always have a full screen mode? I downloaded the fullscreen example from here
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php...rdware_scaling

and it runs full screen already without the update. It looks crappy when blown up but runs just fine.

[hooligan2001]

Wow saw the improvement in your plasma example squzie. Sexy.

[mr_malee]

nice one Squize. 30fps, no drop

I'm happy and not at the same time. My trial version of CS3 expired back to flash8 and the public alpha for me. This new version is a beast, i never thought it would happen.

[tomsamson]

to turtlesoup: flash player has that fullscreen mode feature since one of the first updates to the flash 9 player.
The difference with the latest flash player update is that it can use hardware acceleration in fullscreen mode which leads to better performance.
As you can read on the feature list on tinic´s blog they also did some things to improve the look at the same time,too.

[turtlesoup]

to turtlesoup: flash player has that fullscreen mode feature since one of the first updates to the flash 9 player.
The difference with the latest flash player update is that it can use hardware acceleration in fullscreen mode which leads to better performance.
As you can read on the feature list on tinic´s blog they also did some things to improve the look at the same time,too.

Thanks!

[tonypa]

Goes up to about 18 fps

Good to hear I am not only one not seeing speed improvement. I get same 21 fps on Plasma thing both using new 9,0,60,120 player and 9,0,45,0 version. In Opera and IE, same results.

I do wish I would get same exciting results as most of you guys, but currently I dont. Which makes me think it depends somehow on computer specs or how the OS is set up or settings in browsers. And thats worrying, because as designer there is no way knowing how your game will run on different computers, it may all be smooth in your own machine and work well for testers, but many users still start to complain about the game being too laggy.

[hooligan2001]

Which makes me think it depends somehow on computer specs or how the OS is set up or settings in browsers. And thats worrying, because as designer there is no way knowing how your game will run on different computers, it may all be smooth in your own machine and work well for testers, but many users still start to complain about the game being too laggy.

Yeah soon we will have to start putting minimum requirements on the front screen of our games.

[adit_ya_sharma]

That's really nice, but I would agree Iam not seeing much visible difference in the games present online. Bubble Islands itself was well coded so Iam not sure if I can point out something really different.

I checked the plasma effect, getting variating 24-27 fps.

But I can't help but burst into a YESSSS!!!! after hearing this great update

[T1ger]

I know its a security issue, but the thing about no keyboard input in fullscreen sucks big time...

Why do they really block keyboard input in fullscreen really? What _is_ the security issue?

We should all complain to Adobe about this...

[Squize]

That's odd about the lack of speed increase T :S

What processor you got on your machine ? I've just got a AMD 64bit, so it's not like I'm getting any of the new multi-threading improvements.

Is it going to be worth everyone posting their cpu specs who's tested the plasma effect, see if there's a common theme to why it runs better for some people with the new update ? ( I don't expect everyone to get 30fps, it is quite a heavy little routine, but more for those people who didn't see any difference when using the new plug-in ).

Oh, bit o/t, but anyone else spot that apollo is now called AIR, and that the beta of Flex 3 is out at adobe labs ? I think AIR is going to really open the casual game market to all of us, which is cool with regard Blinks recent post about EA getting in there ( Also ubisoft are starting to do kids stuff, won't be long before they get into the casual world either, and Eidos have recently bought up a lot of casual companies too ).

Squize.

[T1ger]

Some test results about the nice plasma thingy of yours Squize

Work computer, winXP, 2 GHz, 512 MB ram
FF2.0
Flash 9.0.45: 19-20 fps
Flash 9.0.60: 24-26 fps
IE6
Flash 9.0.45: 24-26 fps
Flash 9.0.60: 26-27 fps

Home computer, laptop, 2 GHz, 1gb ram, winxp, overall good machine
FF2.0
Flash 9.0.60: 30 fps

So overall nice speed increase for a 0.0.15 increase in player version

[Squize]

Work computer, XP service pack 2, P4 2.8ghz, 1 gig ram

FF2.0
Flash 9.0.45: 21-22 fps
Flash 9.0.60: 30 fps

IE6
Flash 9.0.45: 27-28 fps ( Although opened in a pop up )
Flash 9.0.60: 26-27 fps

I think we've got to keep in mind it's still a beta release, but the results are pretty constant for me ( Just the weird IE test ).

Squize.

[T1ger]

Squize, you should add fullscreen support to that plasma thing, both with and without hardwarescaling.. Would be fun to see how it runs

PS: Sorry for posting this much, im just bored at work

[adit_ya_sharma]

Work comp. here too:-
Win xp sp 2, AMD Athlon 64 processor 3700+ 2.19 ghz, 1 gb ram, Nvidia Geforce 6600 256 mb


Results for the new flash version for plasma effect:-

Firefox 2.0:
27-29

IE6:
24-27 fps


FF does seem faster then IE.

[tonypa]

WinXP SP2, Intel C 2,66 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 7000 64MB

Like I said 21 fps on this computer

[T1ger]

WinXP SP2, Intel C 2,66 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 7000 64MB

Nice pc specs Tonypa..

But why..?

[adit_ya_sharma]

Nice pc specs Tonypa..

But why..?

He must be referencing to the prior fps that he got before the specs. post i.e 21, for which the specs. are now provided by him, I think