Ok, now this is truly ridiculous! Xbox 360 failure rate: 30%!

[zakp0]

Can I just add.. still waiting on my 360's arrival. Bastards!

[Genesis F5]

1 billion in repair costs: link. I wonder how many of the 11.6 million units sold are unique purchases and not just replacement consoles.

[gerbick]

1 Billion in repairs for Microsoft. 2 Billion in losses for Sony.

Bigger, better and badder... yeah, right. This generation of videogames for teh lose.

[PAlexC]

1 Billion in repairs for Microsoft. 2 Billion in losses for Sony.

Bigger, better and badder... yeah, right. This generation of videogames for teh lose.

I'll give MS credit for not hanging their customers out to dry, but honestly, they should've taken cooling a lot more seriously, especially knowing it's a living room device likely to live in a cubby hole.

Props to Nintendo, profit on the Wii from day 1.

[tidenburg]

DAM. I May have to send my xbox back to microsoft, I have 2 perfectly clean discs but they jump alot and get alot of disc read errors. This happened with Shadowrun and Gears of war. I blew into my disc tray and it was fine for a while so I think it may be that the lense is dirty...

[Subway]

What really surprises me is that they have'nt changed anything for over a year now. This problem was there from day one and reported on several gaming sites. Only after shop employes have leaked some real hard numbers they've taken action. MS has always talked about five or even three percent and knew the whole time that it was much, much more than that. Not that I would have expected them to release the real numbers, but at least they could have tried a bigger cooling solution at some time through that year as from the look of it what they added now on some boxes is more or less just a hack job, nothing that looks like they invested some serious time into it.

Fredi

[PAlexC]

I think it's overall crappy production and parts. Mine had a dead HDD, went back to the store and exchanged it, the guy there said that was the 3rd one that day they had.

That's what happens when you cut corners.

[hurricaneone]

but at least they could have tried a bigger cooling solution at some time through that year

No expert I, but I'm pretty sure that improved cooling is not just a question of slapping a bigger fan on the back and that's done it.

Besides the point that a bigger fan on an Xbox would require users to have a pilots license (helicopters, anyone - stay with me, here), but it wouldn't necessairly add/remove the volume of cooler air required due to case design, internals, etc, nor might the cooler air even get where necessary for the same reasons.

They're in a pickle and no mistake.

[tidenburg]

But then they made the elite, which pretty much eliminates all those problems, unfortunatly we have to pay extra for it.

[hurricaneone]

So in essence, the key selling proposition of the Elite is none other than it won't overheat and die?

Nice. Well done M$.

[creativeinsomnia]

When I bought my Elite(after my first 360 crapped out) I was under the impression that there was no new hardware update. I havent looked into it of course, because i'm lazy, but I've noticed that the Elite is far more quiet than my previous console.

[Subway]

The Elite hasn't solved the problem(s).

Fredi