"If there is something good in the world then we copy with pride." - Nokia

[silverx2]

See, I'm not the only one pissing on peoples pancakes.

Fredi

you say whatever you want about me, but never EVER bring ruining pancakes up again!

[Subway]

But I truly love ruining your pancakes! Runs ...

Fredi

[MagnusVS]

So is iPhone a copy of the first phone that came with sms? Or with colour screen? Or a copy of the first phone ever made?
Of course other companies will develop phones with some of the same functions. So have Apple done - Maybe not enough though, when you see the lack of specifications on iPhone.

[EVPohovich]

My latest gripe about phones is that they don't recogize even common file types (pdf, xls, etc), making them all but useless for business.

My phone will recognize all of those common filetypes. I can create Word Docs, and Excel Spreadsheets, it will also read PDFs and Power Point presentations. Try a WM5 or WM6 phone...

[atRax]

My phone...

Does it crash often?

[EVPohovich]

rarely...

[zakp0]

I can see Subby's point. The iPhone isn't like a GPS, camera, et al, in that it's not a new product as such, it's a product line. We all know that everyone's gonna "borrow" ideas from each other, that's obvious, it's what happens when a product is successful. But making a comment like that wasn't a good idea, and let me assure you, knowing how this place works, he and his further interaction with the media will probably be closely monitored.

But technology is rarely about innovation these days. Too much risk involved. Being able to take the wheel and re-invent it, or re-construct it with better features like we have been doing with phones for years - that's considered innovation nowadays by technology's standards.

[drunknbass]

iphone runs psx.. osx > ALL... the end. nokia phone wont come close. sure a stock iphone is boring, but a modded one is really cool.

[TheOriginalFlashDavo]

That depends: is the best solution for a phone going to be to run the same (or similar) OS as a standard computer, or is it a completely different type of app that requires a completely different type of operating system?

Been reading a few articles about the differing views on developing for handheld devices, and if thinking along similar lines as we have for current online usage is correct or not. Anyway, perhaps a discussion for another time/place...

[tidenburg]

sure a stock iphone is boring, but a modded one is really cool.

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Just read this in the iPhones hot/not page and on the disadvantage is says...

No Hacks
Symbian and Windows have plenty of third-party apps -- not so the locked-down iPhone, which only offers web apps (and even then, Google Docs works poorly). It's not that we'd ever use those calorie counters but it would be nice to know we could.

and just for anyone thats interested about the rest is:

HOT
~Maps and apps (google maps and how the youtube inclusion makes up for safari's lack of flash)
~A new era for mobile browsing (obvious)
~Nice Touch (UI, pinch and pull gestures and the plane-shifting)
~The best iPod ever (screen, battery and UI)
~Syncing is easy. (works well with iTunes again)

NOT
~No hacks (see above)
~Not cutting edge (lack of wi-fi, data speed etc)
~Rubbish Keyboard (apparently its slow compared to the blueberry's built in one)
~Can it (Capacity, headphones and bluetooth v2)
~Email Woes (Cannot manage existing email account easily and no pc sync for mail)

[gerbick]

Anything that you have to mod that much to make it "usable"... isn't worth it usually.

The iPhone, I'd get it if I wanted a pet project; to me it's not worth it right now.

Get the VoIP app, Skype using Wifi, and I'll be there.