God-damn !!

[deepakflash]

But, if you think you know more than most 19th century theologians and philosophers because you saw a guy get hit by a truck, far be it from me to convince you otherwise.

I have no idea about the great philosophers and theologians and the very nice "you" and i wont say that i know everything but i certainly know what my heart feels and which is very true. The guy getting hit by truck is only an example of "ant over elephant".

I've heard comments like yours come from students in these classes. They typically dropped out or failed

People who bring out questions from heart get dropped out of class? How sad?

[argonauta]

deepak, your're so close minded, that you won't even admin how closed minded you are.

I have no idea about the great philosophers and theologians and the very nice "you" and i wont say that i know everything but i certainly know what my heart feels and which is very true. The guy getting hit by truck is only an example of "ant over elephant".

That really sounds a lot like "faith". You believe that, not willing to research or study the subject, not willing to accept what others try to explain, because you're heart tells you. In a similar way, other people choose to believe something else because of different experiences they had. Not because they have proof God exists, not because there's any evidence, not because a book tells them there's a God, but because their heart feels that.

I think every single person here that is a 'believer' has a different concept of God. Why? Because we're talking about an entity that we don't know, how it looks, how it dresses, how it speaks, how it thinks. There's no scientific evidence, he doesn't post in this forums, so how would you expect to get a precise answer? The existence of God for people is based on what their hearts feel, not in evidence. And maybe they're wrong, but you could also be wrong: maybe that guy hit by a truck deserved to die. What if a couple of days after the accident, you saw in the news that he was raped 20 kids 2 months ago? Would you feel the same way? Would you still think that his suffering was unfair? What if God saved 1 guy in Africa, feeds him, and helps him get into college to get a good education, and a few years in the future he goes to your country, and your boss decides he will replace you. You lose your job, and now you're miserable without a dollar to spend....would you still think saving that guy was fair, or good? What if God made you choose: if I save this woman, she'll give you aids in 2 years....do you want me to save her? do you?

Not everything is black and white as you paint it. Poverty and hunger and death are not always a bad thing. Just imagine a world where everybody is happy and all they do is have sex and make children, no hunger, no religion, just happiness...at some point, there would be so many people on Earth that the planet would start dying, and with it, you and the rest of the human race. There's no perfect balance in our world, it's just like that.

Also, as I think we're talking about the same God, maybe you forget that most people that believe she exists also believes that she has a very evil friend called the devil, and he's trully evil. So maybe God is benevolent and loves us and wants to help us, but on the other side we have the devil doing evil things. I think most religions believe in this duality, and not in a perfect world where everyone is happy: god/devil, ying/yang, light side/dark side.

I really don't see why it's so important to know if God exists, if she's good or if we're all mistaken. In the end, if you knew without a doubt what's the right answer, would it be so important? Would it change your life? Would you stop doing the things you do everyday if you knew God exists? I think you wouldn't, and that's fine. You see the world from your perspective, but not everybody sees the world the way you do.

Well said. And thats what i too mean. Its we humans who are God who can "practically" help people who are in need.

So wait a sec, you're saying you believe God exists, but he/she/is is really all of us? A lot of people that believe in God think he's everywhere, in all living things, in every one of us, in the air you breath, the water you drink, and the poop you poop, so it doesn't disagree with the concept of 'we are god'.

Based on what you've written (like thinking the reading the bible can brainwash you) I think your problem is not with the existence of God, but with the church. I also agree with PAlexC and go study, research, and stop making your own fairy tales.