Quote Originally Posted by realMakc
well, in russia I would expect the word such as "good" to be used in a way, which does not give it "completely different" meaning, about 90% of time, and more; too bad if it is not the case in English... though so far I never noticed that until now my feeling here is that you are trying to use one or two unrelated special case meanings, such as http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/good #46 f, as a basis to dismiss my statement without actually having to defeat it.
I think it's the opposite. You are writing about semantics in order to avoid having to clarify and defend an actual position.

Your feeling is wrong. I was only trying to understand your point. I might throw in my 10 cents on it. But, I don't care to "defeat it" if we disagree. I just wanted to understand you. If you are secure in your belief, you shouldn't have to start making insulting statements in the face of reasonable questions.

In fact, I have started to address different interpretations of your statement. But, I'm not going to waste my time addressing every possible way it could be interpreted only to find out that isn't what you mean. That's why I've simply tried to get you to clarify your argument. Since you haven't done so, you haven't really even made an argument to "defeat."

Quote Originally Posted by realMakc
as for definitions/concepts in general, I think what dictionaries do is simply avoiding them by listing all possible use of the word and leaving all the hard work up to dictionary user himself. the choise made by dictionary editors does not imply, imho, that this cannot be done at all. just like a child, who learns every concept from numerous examples, you are free to find common ground between all listed use cases, if you are really willing to do so, and not just looking to dismiss some inconvenient statement.
I think that blaming dictionaries for your inability to clearly communicate a point is... interesting.

Yes, some concepts escape dictionary definitions. However, it is insufficient to simply pick a single word, say it, and then claim that you have delivered some unique concept. If you want others to understand what you are trying to say, you have to explain what you mean by new usages of words. People do it all the time. The fact that you got all defensive about it tells me that maybe you haven't really given this subject much thought?