Flash cs4. Is it better?

[bigtreez]

mmm...

@danimatzia - What does mmm... mean?!

For people who have not spent the money yet, this is valuable information. If you are a non believer, check here:
http://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?...5&rankBy=10001

and this one in particular. Two months, no answer:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/86907#86907

This one is nice too, an open letter to Adobe:
http://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?...5&rankBy=10001

These are right from the Adobe website. mmm...

For the fist few months Flash CS4 was working great, I used it for animations primarily and I LOVED it!! BUT, now I can't even use it at all! I have tried everything I can think of, but nothing works to correct the constant crashing. It's not corrupt fonts, it's not the preferences screwing things up, it's not a bad install...on and on and on. The only saving grace for me was that I managed to find a workaround that I haven't seen used anywhere else to get the files open so I could save it back out to a CS3 file and save my hundreds of hours of CS4 work.

These are just my thoughts, agree or disagree... but at least try to add something to the conversation. I love Adobe products, and overall the CS4 Master Suite is excellent. The customer service surrounding the Flash CS4 problems leave much to be desired though.

[cancerinform]

Some examples here:
http://www.flashscript.biz/flash10.html

This is in preparation:
http://flashscript.biz/Flash10/curve...urvedtext.html

This movie also contains some CS4.
http://flashscript.biz/flashas3/biz/FS_biz_classes.html

I like CS4. 3D is also possible without getting into all those 3D programs although there seem to be some problems like conversion to bitmaps.

[danimatzia]

Hey, mmm have some different meanings
This one was "mmm I know what you are talking about..."
I also had some problems with it and went back to CS3

[bigtreez]

Hey, mmm have some different meanings
This one was "mmm I know what you are talking about..."
I also had some problems with it and went back to CS3

I see...

It's a real shame, huh? I wish that they would get their stuff together and fix it already! All they are offering to do is downgrade you to a different suite. Has anyone ever seen that Penn & Teller show? This is just like that: BULL****!

[gerbick]

Watch your language.

I guess you've not been through the growing pains of Flash on OS X, Flash 8, nor any of the other prior versions going back to Flash 5 - there's been something wrong in each release that upset somebody. And if you had, you'd temper the storm a bit better.

If you're that unhappy, get a refund. I understand your unhappiness; however a refund sends a very clear message to Adobe. That's who you should be ranting toward.

Also, if you didn't know, there is an upcoming update in the next week for CS4 - read here.

[Adobemedia]

Heck, I still get crashes in Flash 8 on my G5, without any reason at all.

Things crash.

CS3 has been fairly stable for me though, and the CS4 trial crashed around three times.

As for fixing it, fixes take time to release. Would you prefer a rushed patch, that only fixes half of the bugs, or a path that fixes 80% of the bugs, but takes longer to release?

[WannaBe_80z]

I'll take a free perfect program that will never need patches...

wait...this is the real world right? damn.

[danimatzia]

Hey WannaBe 80z
is this your photos at "PaulBisaillon's photostream"?
I loved it

[EVPohovich]

Nice logo WannaBe...

[cancerinform]

CS3 has been fairly stable for me though, and the CS4 trial crashed around three times.

So here. I once had to reinstall the system, because there were problems with fonts. I suspect that had to do with CS4 since it happened then.

However, as I said I am happy with CS4 and don't want to go back to CS3.

[WannaBe_80z]

Nice logo WannaBe...

You like that? I got some sucker to make it for me...

[EVPohovich]

You like that? I got some sucker to make it for me...

..|..

[WannaBe_80z]

<3

[EVPohovich]

< 3"

Looks like you had a typo...

(Do you know how close I was to just changing that in your post...? )

[WannaBe_80z]

haha

[Adobemedia]

I'll take a free perfect program that will never need patches...

wait...this is the real world right? damn.

Someone just woke up from a good dream.

[bigtreez]

Someone just woke up from a good dream.

No doubt. I know nothing is perfect...but having bugs, glitches or unusable components isn't the same as the catastrophic crashing of the program that renders it absolutely UNusable.

If I was able to get a refund, don't you think I would have posted that as "a silver lining"? I would have.

I am glad to hear they are finally working on the patch/fix. It is partly due to people like me who voice our opinions about the Flash problems. I personally wrote an email to Adobe (a few in fact).

All in all, the whole package is still worth having. I like the content aware scaling in PS, groovy!

[atRax]

Adobe Flash® CS4 Professional (10.0.2) addresses a number of performance issues. Some key fixes are:

* AS2 Doc Crashes CS4 when buttons not rendered correctly
* Auto Format beaks the code if encounters ++ or -- with an array inside if statement
* Clicking through movie clip with large preview takes long to select in the Library in AS 3.0 file
* Scrubbing and pressing Enter to play timeline is not smooth, slower in AS3 documents
* W and H of instance incorrect after frame 2 if apply tween to instance with filter
* 3D tools appear incorrectly to a child movie clip when applying skew and rotation to the parent 2d movie clip.
* Changing W/H for nested 2d>3d movie clip from PI does not work. After scrubbing the hot text, it snaps back to the original size.
* Dragging from Library to Stage is slow in some files in CS4
* Selecting items in the library is slow in CS4
* Scrolling the library (vertical scroll bar) is slow compared to CS3
* In a FLA with lots of library items, double clicking a symbol "in the edit mode" hangs Flash on Mac.
* Library contents explode CS4 memory (CS3 sits at 75M)
* Performance issue with Stagecore (AS 3.0 fla) - scrubbing, moving, altering objects.
* Object visibility is compromised when created inside empty groups in AS 3.0 fla files.
* Double clicking symbol or symbol name in library hangs Flash; library contains a lot of items
* Text with device font disappears when it is selectable
* Component parameters don't work for scenes greater than scene 1
* Selecting frames with textfields is a lot slower if the Components Inspector panel is opened
* Empty maskee incorrectly renders mask invisible rather than visible
* Crash when opening a fla that uses a font symbol whose name was identical to the Postscript name of the underlying font and the font is missing
* Optimize a section within a shape leaves gaps in the shape
* Optimize opening and closing FLA files, frame manipulation for FLAs with many frames
* Win only: Crash on exit when the text field is in edit mode and clicking X button to quit without save
* Compiler errors when opening "Air Settings" while adl still running.
* (screens) timeline playhead can’t scrub and jitters when playing anything that spans frames
* gotoAndPlay("framelabel") compiles differently in CS3 versus CS4
* Scrubbing the timeline and selecting frames is much slower in CS4 than in CS3
* Crash when creating a text object on stage when there are corrupted fonts
* Graphic symbol looping setting changes when apply color effect to instance in PI
* Files with lots of nested clips suffer from performance issue (file open) in Flash CS4
* Edit in Place of 2d objects which has 3d movieclips nested inside is not functioning correctly.
* Edit in place is slow for complex instances in FP10 documents
* Breaking apart a nested movie clip erases instance name of child movie clip
* Efficient calculation between keyframes so dragging is faster and generally makes people happier if spans are long and complex.
* AS3 Components not compiling correctly when using the Component Definition dialog
* Window Only: Flash crashes when double clicking a fla to open while a current fla is opened with text block selected
* Can’t interact with Flash because modal dialog is up, but hidden behind the workspace when switching between applications
* From crash reporter: crash on Mac when double click to enter symbol edit mode (when the black dotted rectangle is drawn)
* Mac IDE flashes when right-clicking on Library after doing Test Movie
* Performance is slow after double clicking movie clip to enter edit mode and exit
* Setting an instance's width and/or height to 1 makes W and H hot text unusable in the vertical PI.
* Hot text in the Vertical PI for X, Y, W, H displays only 1 decimal point while edit field displays 2
* Export image: Dimension values in Export dialog and Vertical PI do not match which is misleading to user.
* Crash when selecting text field on stage with many fonts on user’s system.
* Text PI is stuck and some controls on the PI are not drawn with certain fonts on user’s system
* The JSAPI that allows users to publish FLA files without opening them was inadvertently removed when the Project Panel was deprecated. fl.publishDocument( flaURI [, publishProfile] ) is added.
* "Export classes in frame" behavior is different in CS3 than in CS4
* Drag and drop large nested symbol from library to stage hangs Flash
* Dragging from Library to Stage slow on subsequent drag or after scrubbing the timeline
* Scrubbing and pressing Enter to play timeline is not smooth, slower in AS3 documents
* W and H of instance incorrect after frame 2 if apply tween to instance with filter
* Large amounts of text nested in a symbol causes performance problems in non-AS3 documents
* Playback in authoring is not smooth (playhead skips frames), cannot stop it when hitting enter, eventually hangs and takes long to respond (both AS 2.0 and AS 3.0)
* Performance Creating Exported Symbol when the classpath contains lots of files and folder
* Create ease, undo after first edit removes ease
* Selecting and deselecting raw shape after convert to symbol spikes memory and/or crashes
* FLA crash on open when fonts loaded
* Mac only: User input resets to previous setting when attempting to change any value in Vertical PI input area
* Accessing a Windows SWF after it has been moved or deleted crashes Flash
* Crashing when re-opening FLA after canceling publish
* Crash in test movie when running a file with video and filters


Finally..

[bigtreez]

Finally..

Indeed