Elements. Fantasy cards game

[ggabriel]

Either you're very lucky or I'm very unlucky, then. Doing 200 HP worth of damage with dragons before I run out of shields takes quite a lot of luck even when I'm not constantly losing pillars.

[sixones]

Either you're very lucky or I'm very unlucky, then. Doing 200 HP worth of damage with dragons before I run out of shields takes quite a lot of luck even when I'm not constantly losing pillars.

As we speak I am on track to finish him.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8568/seism.jpg

Lots of shields left too

[cisco1]

Ok had like 15 pages to catch up so I kind of flew through them. first Zanz did a great job on the new version. I have lots of incenitive to keep on playing.
People gripe to much. seriously stop wining If you have a problem against certain decks change your strat. no deck is overpowered.
1500 coins is great for an upgrade lowering it will f... the worth of upgrades if anything certain upgradeds should be higher. don´t ask, have no Idea wich cards would need an increase lol.
Right now I´m winning about 3-4 out of ten games l6 with my rainbow deck. with upgrades it keeps getting more affectiv.
love l6 it is a real challenge. out of about 20 wins l6 got three cards so some people are just lucky. just have to say great job zanz, I can really say I´m becomming an elements junkie lol.

an Idea to the immortel creatures(aether ) would let the upgraded card ulitharid have the ability to remove it. I upgraded one since it said that it removes any skill hoping it would remove immo. this would make this card more usefull since I think i´m the only one that is using it...... and this would help with all the griping about the new aether, since only bw upgraded diss and simply a real fast dragon deck can overcome it pretty much.

the idea with giving up button in pvp is a good one too.

[sixones]

K managed to beat graviton and miracle finally with mono-aether.. now to make a new deck to try to beat all the L6 with that one as well...

Any suggestions to try?

[rob77dp]

K managed to beat graviton and miracle finally with mono-aether.. now to make a new deck to try to beat all the L6 with that one as well...

Any suggestions to try?

Rainbow is really the only way (upgraded Rainbow with Quantum PIllars upped too) I can see trying to consistently beat the false god decks... See above post by cisco - I do not know what his deck packs, but he seems to be having some success with it. Good luck! :-D


--rob77dp

[alu.]

Right now I´m winning about 3-4 out of ten games l6 with my rainbow deck. with upgrades it keeps getting more affectiv.
love l6 it is a real challenge. out of about 20 wins l6 got three cards so some people are just lucky. just have to say great job zanz, I can really say I´m becomming an elements junkie lol.

Cisco i'm curious as to what your thoughts are about building a solid rainbow deck to defeat the l6 "gods." Initially i created a few different rainbow decks with the thought that the ability to play my miracles as well as a variety of rare weapons would give me the best shot at victory.

I tried all yesterday at different card configurations and 2k g later i didn't end up winning anywhere close to 3-4/10. The best success i had was with a 60 card rainbow deck with time as my element that focused on hourglasses/miracles and 4-5 rare weapons with some complementary monsters mixed in. Any suggestions?

@ Zanzarino, great game! My friends and i enjoy it immensely. I kind of helps take the edge off of a slowly healing WoW addiction.

Cheers,

-Alu

[Badlok]

Would anyone mind giving me a hand? 23 games against lvl 6 and still not a single victory. I've tried my FFQ deck which wins about 70% vs Top 50, and I've also tried mono-aether, but no luck there.

If someone would be kind enough to post their deck, or send me an e-mail to [email protected] I would be very grateful. I am getting very very frustrated with the game...

[sixones]

Mono Aether:

6 Phase Dragon
6 Dimensional Shield
The rest are all Aether pillars.

Optional: 1-2 Parallel Universes

[marauder68]

Top 50:
Problem 1: I can not win upgraded cards... and you never will, aka "I can put 30 bone towers in my top 50 deck and anyone that fight against my deck will get rewarded with about 2400 coins". Everyone is rich, happy and has easy access to upgraded cards, regular cards are seen only in starter decks and might as well be deleted from the game.

Example: printing $100 bills and distributing them equally to the world population does not make anyone rich, it's just unfair for the hard workers.

Wait, you don't believe in socialism?</sarcasm>

How hard would it be to put in some kind of check against something like this?

Problem 2: It takes a week to grind and get a single upgraded card... but upgraded cards do not unlock any new strategy (true for about 98% of the cards). In fact, you do not "need" upgraded cards to win pvp fights or even to win a match against a fake god (I tried it and won against both, rarely, but I did), it is just much harder because you have an handicap. So, if you do not like grinding... don't. Just accept the fact that someone has better cards than you, fight against him and when you manage to win against them in spite of your handicap: lyao... twice the fun.

Without grinding you'll never be able to upgrade your deck.The problem is the reward for "grinding" is about half what it used to be on Top 50, there isn't enough variety in level 3 to be worthwhile and pvp is a fun diversion but heavy penalizes you for losing. I don't think anybody is asking for "freebies", just a chance to earn a decent reward in order to be able to get some upgraded cards without playing 12+ hours a day.

Problem 3: Playing Top50 is now harder. True.
New cards, new levels and new strategies will come.

I can't wait!

I am not saying that everything that was done is anywhere close to perfect or it is never going to change, in fact, it will. Just trying to explain why I made certain decisions, since I know it is often frustrating to see something in a game and wonder "Why the hell did they do it this stupid way". Now you got the answer. Have fun, do not grind, carpal tunnel might be behind the corner.

This game is awesome for being free! Which is part of the reason it's frustrating to look ahead and see how long it will take to get an upgraded deck.

I see you added a "donate via paypal" button. A suggestion- give an option for $5 a month to earn one rare card of choice a month. Enough of an incentive to trigger some donations, but not so big a deal people who can't/won't donate won't be able to compete.

[turtl3]

I just got mastery on miracle with a life/aether deck.
The key is to just save up creatures so you can slam them all out in one last turn before it thinks to use miracle.
I also won an improved miracle from the game

edit: just beat scorpio with 85 health and won yet another upgraded card.
You guys need to improve your decks

[sixones]

I just got mastery on miracle with a life/aether deck.
The key is to just save up creatures so you can slam them all out in one last turn before it thinks to use miracle.
I also won an improved miracle from the game

Yeah the trick I found to beating Miracle was the same thing, I just have to use a twin universe to kill him

[sixones]

-1050 score because I play against AI6s so I can upgrade (And win at a profitable rate)

That is rediculous. I started at 3000.

[turtl3]

-1050 score because I play against AI6s so I can upgrade (And win at a profitable rate)

That is rediculous. I started at 3000.

Now play some pvp

[turtl3]

Bug: Poisons hit through my reflective shield

[ggabriel]

Looks like phase dragons have been fixed; they seem to be doing 8 damage like it says on the card, instead of 9 damage like they were before. A pity, that. I'd gotten tired of farming on Miracle and was just about to give mono-aether another spin.

On the plus side, I've built up a healthy stockpile of neat toys from picking on Miracle for so long, so I retooled my air/aether deck into air/light/aether and have been having a lot wider success with it. I probably could've done this configuration before without the upgrades but they are still quite handy to have. (I didn't even have any regular Miracle cards before, so getting several Improved Miracles was a huge help).

[sixones]

Looks like phase dragons have been fixed; they seem to be doing 8 damage like it says on the card, instead of 9 damage like they were before. A pity, that. I'd gotten tired of farming on Miracle and was just about to give mono-aether another spin.

On the plus side, I've built up a healthy stockpile of neat toys from picking on Miracle for so long, so I retooled my air/aether deck into air/light/aether and have been having a lot wider success with it. I probably could've done this configuration before without the upgrades but they are still quite handy to have. (I didn't even have any regular Miracle cards before, so getting several Improved Miracles was a huge help).

How did you only pick on miracle for profit...?

[ggabriel]

By not even bothering to put up a real fight against anyone else. Blue/aether dive-parallel dimension decks are virtually guaranteed to beat Miracle (95%+ success rate) even though they're rubbish against anything else (you can beat Fire Queen maybe 10-15% of the time that way, you're lucky to get 5% on the rest). If I ran into someone other than Miracle, I'd stick around a few turns on the off-chance I'd get lucky, otherwise I'd just forfeit (assuming I wasn't already dead anyhow). Miracle comes up 1/10 of the time and is an easy win, so I used that deck as a fast reliable way to fund experimental decks.

As an added bonus, Miracle coughs up a lot of cards which are useful for white dive/PU abuse, which it turns out is even better; it still crushes Miracle for reliable wins and manages to stand a chance against several other decks. I mean, I had managed to beat most of the gods using that particular air/aether deck, but the amount of luck required for most of them was just absurd.

[Disaru]

for a profit of 18.5 gold/game, or about the same i make vs playing level 3

Those are the odds I have been receiving considering that I never win 2 or 3 cards per win. (Which has happened 3 times so far..)

Also you have to consider that lets say you are playing an aether for example, and you beat Gemini and win a rare card that you can add straight to your deck. That is a win that saves you 1500 coins.

If you've only been playing for 1 day, it doesn't show you're winning cards consistently, maybe you're just lucky with slots.

If anything, zzz123's point is valid. Even if you win 2-3 cards per win, sometimes you might not even win 1 card to begin with. Someone would win as much as they would playing level 3, maybe even more. The only difference, and the BIGGEST difference, is that they don't end up with -1050 score like you. Plus level 6 games are probably twice as long as level 3 games. lol so you're losing out on time and score, so don't be fooled by lose, lose, lose, lose, 1500 card!! Until someone can find a more consistent deck, playing level 3 is probably better in the long run than playing level 6.

Cisco i'm curious as to what your thoughts are about building a solid rainbow deck to defeat the l6 "gods." Initially i created a few different rainbow decks with the thought that the ability to play my miracles as well as a variety of rare weapons would give me the best shot at victory.

I tried all yesterday at different card configurations and 2k g later i didn't end up winning anywhere close to 3-4/10. The best success i had was with a 60 card rainbow deck with time as my element that focused on hourglasses/miracles and 4-5 rare weapons with some complementary monsters mixed in. Any suggestions?

Level 6 is all about blocking damage (sometimes denial works for 2-element decks), because you're not going to go hit for hit with them. I usually go with bone wall and dimensional shields stocked (actually 4-5 of each) in my rainbow deck. Now with stalling/delay tactics like shield decks, I go with creatures that can grow over time since the match is prolonged (forest spirit, lava golem, FFQ) and use creature control that can almost always kill something, or used in combination can kill everything (use owl eye, then either eat with otyugh or kill with maxwell's demon) and that builds up your bone wall. Pop a miracle (once you reach low health, just pop it so your light quanta can start building up for next miracle) and ta-da. That's the best success I've had with rainbow versus level 6 :P

[sixones]

By not even bothering to put up a real fight against anyone else. Blue/aether dive-parallel dimension decks are virtually guaranteed to beat Miracle (95%+ success rate) even though they're rubbish against anything else (you can beat Fire Queen maybe 10-15% of the time that way, you're lucky to get 5% on the rest). If I ran into someone other than Miracle, I'd stick around a few turns on the off-chance I'd get lucky, otherwise I'd just forfeit (assuming I wasn't already dead anyhow). Miracle comes up 1/10 of the time and is an easy win, so I used that deck as a fast reliable way to fund experimental decks.

As an added bonus, Miracle coughs up a lot of cards which are useful for white dive/PU abuse, which it turns out is even better; it still crushes Miracle for reliable wins and manages to stand a chance against several other decks. I mean, I had managed to beat most of the gods using that particular air/aether deck, but the amount of luck required for most of them was just absurd.

I verse miracle like 1/20 of the time -.-

[asryn]

Please, please, can you put a confirm button on the upgrades?

I've been saving coins for a month or so, ever since you announced upgrades were coming. I have enough for only 2, so I was looking over the options trying to decide what made the most sense. And apparently I must have clicked in the wrong place by accident (I was trying to scroll over the cards to see the upgrades), because now I have an upgraded pillar that I don't even use in my deck, and 1500 less coins, which would take me months to re-earn. *sob*

zanzarino, if there is any chance of undoing that purchase, even if it means resetting my account to a previous save, I would greatly appreciate it. My game name is also asryn, and the upgraded card is a Quantum Tower. I haven't played since it happened, and I will hold off for a bit in case you are able to help but only by reverting the account. If not, I'm hoping you can at least make sure it can't happen again. Thanks!