Apple would send developers to everyone's office to type code for them before they'd back off on flash.

@YBAB please come back and post about you're experiences in making html do what flash did 10 years ago. Remember you haven't truly replaced it unti it works everywhere.

Read a great quote on twitter the other day. "Lets all ditch flash because it doesn't work on mobile and build a bunch of html5 that doesn't work on mobile."

There is a huge momentum behind js right now so it's getting easier and easier to make it do what you want but it's just sad that using multiple libraries and a V8 engine is pretty much a requirement.

Carl Sagan said to bake an apple pie from scratch you must first create the universe. This is how I feel about js. To make js work, you must first write thousands of lines of code to fix js.