Quote Originally Posted by david petley View Post
I am so glad I do not live in the US, having jokers like you justifying what MOST see as a shameful, violent, unnecessary and deadly act against students, that was not justified by any account except the national guards', would make me scared for my life.
Actually, the account was justified by multiple US courts of law. So, obviously, there are others here that agree.

Quote Originally Posted by david petley View Post
here is one person who was wounded that day, look how threatening he is. Those kneeling guardsmen look so fearful ...look at them, valiantly holding firm against overwhelming and imminent danger - some guy with a flag.

http://alancanfora.com/themes/alancanfora/mi2.jpg
When you present things like this as if they support your position, it just damages your credibility. The guardsmen were greatly outnumbered by a crowd advancing on and attacking them.

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Do you know for certain that every person killed or injured was present at an illegal rally and failed to disperse?
Did you not read the sourced account from Kent? The crowd was advancing on the guardsmen, forcing them to back up.

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This is a picture of where the soldiers who fired were standing -
http://www.may4archive.org/images/guardview.jpg ...and the carpark you can see is where most were killed and injured. We are talking a long way away here ...200 yards or so.
This picture demonstrates how people could be accidentally killed far away if the guardsmen were shooting over the heads of a much closer mob. That the guardsmen were wearing gas masks, obstructing vision, could have been a factor regarding their aim.

And none of that removes the basic fact that the guardsmen had reason to fear for their safety.

Quote Originally Posted by david petley View Post
I remember his testimony. He has very poor eyesight, and on May 4 he couldn't get the gas mask on over his glasses, so he had to wear the gas mask without glasses. He was blind as a bat without them, and he admitted he just knew he was shooting in a certain direction. That was a startling admission. There was a guy out there who could hardly see, blasting away with an M-l.
I think this statement is startling strong in favor of my position. A mob of 500 violent protesters bearing down on a blind guardsmen and you're surprised that he fired his weapon to defend himself?