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    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
    Did you really just equate healthcare insurance to buying a book from Amazon?
    Why no, I did not. But, nice straw man.

    I was simply pointing out that every corporation in the country has to incorporate in a specific state and people seem to be able to sue any of them if needed. If someone could sue McDonald's over hot coffee, I'm fairly certain that someone else could sue an insurance company if they "screwed" them over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
    Can someone please explain to me why Republicans only value life while it's still in the womb?!?
    Can someone please explain why Obama and other Democrats have to make up straw man arguments to knock down when their opposition have provided clear and substantial opposing arguments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
    Believe me, I like a good fairy tale as much as the next person and I really wish there were unicorns, pots of leprechaun gold, princesses, ogre, and talking donkeys, but unfortunately we have to live in the real world where, in the absence of regulation, competition means seeing who can race to the bottom quickest (and China is winning that race in the retail market), and where big corporations have "risk managers" who's job it is to add up the numbers and see if it's more profitable to kill a few consumers and just pay the lawsuits or recall/fix dangerous products.
    I think that any criticism of free market principles that cites China as a negative example fits in the fantasy category.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, those old, recycled, and historically false answers show only that the insurance industry side really doesn't have any viable answers to the questions I posed.
    As a matter of fact, those answers only prove that the questions are very real concerns.
    I believe that the logical fallacy you employ here is what is known as a bare assertion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue View Post
    As a practicing Christian perhaps you should read your Bible again, or go to biblegateway.com and do some keyword searches for "stranger" and "poor".
    You may gain a little understanding about basic morality, compassion, and how your religion and savior direct you to treat strangers and the poor.
    Even us atheists can agree with a lot of the teachings and philosophy of Jesus and what is the morally correct way to treat another human being even if we don't buy into the magical fairy tale bits.
    Perhaps you should go to biblegateway.com and discover whether or not "fabrication" is ever promoted? While you are there, you might discover some discussion about lying as well.

    There is nothing unsympathetic about simply acknowledging the fact that the current bill would benefit illegal immigrants at tax payer expense.

    And since we are now making personal critiques about what we should know and believe, I suggest that you find a good source for practicing reading comprehension. You apparently didn't understand that my position on this point is that I don't object to illegal immigrants getting the same health options as everyone else but that Democrats should stop lying about whether or not they would under this bill. So, I figure you could afford to brush up on your reading technique there, Moses.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverx2 View Post
    That depends, are we talking amazon sent me an item that was broken? They have a return policy and would send me a replacement. Or are we talking amazon wont sell me something because i was born with cancer? If thats the case i dont know what i would do, im sure i could sue them, but with all their money and lawyers they could probably keep the case in limbo till I'm dead.
    Thank you. You agree that you could sue them, contrary to LR's scare argument.
    Last edited by FlashLackey; 09-26-2009 at 02:45 AM.
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